Who actually has the deed to the booths that say estate broker owns em? I know, I know, it’s probably not public knowledge… just find it annoying seeing estate brokers name all over the place in estate terminals that are in nice locations that no one is utilizing at the moment.
Marcus Calendar (sp?) the Estate Broker is an MA/FPC avatar.
Interesting!! I was wondering the exact same thing just the other day.
Who is Marcus Callendar and why does he own everything?? :scratch2:
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OK so why does he not sell them then?
They may have been sold as well but until the new owner actually manually claims them they stay as owned by Marcus Callendar
I guess my point is that you never see them for sale in auction (owned by Marcus Callendar) so how can you buy one?
if the estate broker is listed as the owner that avatar has the actual deed.
That avatar is a MA/FPC official avatar so that means they are currently owned by them.
They could be in his possession due to them being sold but not claimed (like some of the apartments.) in rare cases like on CND, Neverdie has the deeds but the estate broker was previous owner and they havnt been claimed yet.
Other cases are either new estates that have yet to be released or old estates that were previously owned by banned or defunct avatars.
If you get banned your estate goes to the estate broker. If you dont log in for more than a year or so again it goes to the estate broker while you get tt value for everything you own.
Sometimes They do get listed on auction but it is rare. like all the apartments (amethera apartments) they were all listed on auction for about a year when they were first released. Also Land Areas are often listed on auction.
The estate broker sells them exclusively via auction.
Sometimes though estates are given as prizes for events as well.
I guess…
I guess my complaint is that there should not be a need for claiming an estate… as soon as deed passes hand the change in ownership should happen automatically so that it’s not so confusing… all these ‘investors’ should not continue to be allowed to hide since they are - harming the rce by not using their estate… I think Marco or another member of FPC said in one post somewhere that it’s their responsibility to stabilize the RCE… perhaps changing the way this works so that just owning deed makes you auto-claim it without actually going to estate would be one way to help stabilize this.
You do see them for sale on auctions frequently. Several LAs have recently gone for sale from MindArk (the Estate Broker).
Guesss I need to look at estates auction more often then 
I have 5 apartments. I use 2 of them, the others are “investments”.
In what way does that harm the economy? There are many apartments for sale so the only thing that would happen if MArcus started selling would be that the market prices would plummet.
My guess is that MA/FPC releases estates / LA’s / apartments so as to affect the market as little as possible.
Have you had a look at the estates auction recently?? :scratch2:
To the best of my knowledge, no apartments have been released by MA/FPC since they where taken off the auction listing many years ago. The Land areas that recently appeared coincided with the sale of CP and lots of ped available for purchasing them was in game. LA sales and shop sales and homes from MA/FPC are very rare events.
To the best of my knowledge, no apartments have been released by MA/FPC since they where taken off the auction listing many years ago. The Land areas that recently appeared coincided with the sale of CP and lots of ped available for purchasing them was in game. LA sales and shop sales and homes from MA/FPC are very rare events.
Were they taken off of the market by MA OR were they simply purchased by someone with a lot of peds and they are now holding them and not using them, knowing full well that this won’t be revealed to anyone in the community because their “investment” is hidden by the fact that they never claimed the places, so now estate broker looks like he owns many more things than he actually does have control over. Maybe Marco or someone could post in here exactly which estates estate broker does still own?.. For instance, I think I read that all of the top floor of Emerald Lakes was never sold by Robroy or whoever it is that owns the shop now simply because they wanted prices on the shops to go up a lot higher before they did that?.. artificially making supply lower… When I first started playing there were about 30 pages of estates always on the market. Is MA|FPC really holding that many in estate broker to artificially inflate prices on us?!?
I have 5 apartments. I use 2 of them, the others are “investments”.
In what way does that harm the economy?
It creates a supply/demand issue sort of, maybe… for instance, when the snowmen came just a little while ago, I think they were reserved for those that owned estates… if you owned an estate you got one… since you hold so many estates, it kept x amount of snowmen from being created as you only get one. If 5 different avatars each owned one of your estates, that would be 5 created vs the 1 created as things are, or at least that’s my understanding of how it works? I might be off on that?!?..
I’m not saying owning multiple estates is bad or wrong, but like in the above example, if you are getting more than one snowman, or if you only get one, how is that affecting the economy?!?..
My main point isn’t really with you with this thread IF you claimed your apartments… my issue is that people aren’t claiming the places sometimes, so it looks like estate broker owns some places he does not, or that avatars that owned the places before you don’t own them now even if you are not paying the rent, so your not paying rent may be giving someone else a bad reputation? As we all know reputation has a lot to do with creating trust and whatnot… so unclaimed deeds sitting in storage are really hurting the economy by making it look like the real deed holder is not really the deed holder currently.
FPC, if you are reading this, and especially if it REALLY IS your job to help stabilize the rce, would it really hurt anything to do away with the claiming part of estates and just make the real deed holder at any time appear in the estate terminal? Would make things much less confusing, especially for anyone that’s looking to buy some real estate? It would also make there be less of an appearance of false advertising going on by the estate terminals. Even for landgrab, the current system does not seem to make any sense as it would be smart to allow whoever owns the place to appear on the estate terminal… I’m guessing landgrab actually does work automatically since the place has to be claimed by whoever new owner is… It’s just SILLY to have real deed holder not appear as the owner.
When your acount gets purged the deed go back to MCBroker. But MCBroker does not claim these estates. Haven´t checked the LAs of banned users since VU10, but pre VU10 it always showed the original owner (the banned owner).
CND is not the only place where owner didn´t claim estates and didn´t sell all of them.
Rob Roy reserved the 3rd floor of emeralds mall for special purposes. Imho he still got all the deeds for 3rd floor.
Many other deeds may be in players hand but never claimed. And some that have been operated for a while will be at other players hand, but other player has not claimed yet. Have noticed such cases, when I tried to find shopowners of closed shop, in order to buy these shops Some told me already sold it, at auction and they have no clue who actually got the deed
if the estate broker is listed as the owner that avatar has the actual deed.
Nope… that’s not the way it works… the estate terminal shows whoever last held the deed AND claimed the place at estate terminal. It’s very possible that some estate owners might be hiding their identity by letting it appear that estate broker still owns the place when they own it instead and just never claimed it… something that in my opinion makes the estate terminal give out false information, confusing information, and almost makes MA itself appear to be trying to help scammers or something, or at the very least not caring what happens in the real cash econmy since it’s hard for anyone to know who owns what…
When I handed my booth over to another avatar, until they claimed it, my name still appeared on the estate terminal… so if someone contacted me to buy the place, I had to tell them I can’t sell it to them since I don’t own the deed anymore. Creates a very icky situation where an avatars name appears on something they don’t own or have control over any longer! In my situation, it was not too bad since new owner did come and claim the place. In other situations that may not happen… leaving the estate terminal telling a lie about me, or whoever the previous owner was! That’s almost identity theft or false advertising on some levels… ESPECIALLY since MA makes such a huge deal over the fact that they want people to not have multiple avatars, etc…
By leaving the current system as it is where a deed owner has to claim the place to get the previous owner’s name removed, MA|FPC is helping identity theives and scammers on some level! Imagine a situation where someone like Neverdie or Deathifier sells a place but new owner does not claim it. Now the new owner could create a scam where (s)he goes around and claims to be Neverdie’s official second avatar or special representative or something, and would be able to “prove” that lie by flashing the deed around and explaining the lie to those that looked at the estate terminal!
From what I understand, when estates were first sold, most of them were bought up by 3-4 people…
Not claiming them = not having to pay the fee on them
So they keep them for years and release a few now and then, driving up prices by keeping supply lower than demand…
Might be wrong though, this is only what I have heard before :silly2:
From what I understand, when estates were first sold, most of them were bought up by 3-4 people…
Not claiming them = not having to pay the fee on them
So they keep them for years and release a few now and then, driving up prices by keeping supply lower than demand…
Might be wrong though, this is only what I have heard before
I’ve heard the same story… but I don’t know if it’s an urban legend or not… none of can know because the system makes it impossible to know as it is right now! Therefore, the way the system is now might possibly be contributing directly to a pricing scam! If it is FPC’s and the Balancing Manager’s job to stabilize the economy, you would think they’d want to do something to stop scams like this which are almost a violation of the eula since it’s hindering the enjoyment of the game by other avatars.