I went apartment looking this evening and I found a lot of apartments that were abandoned and the maintenance fee hadn’t been paid in years.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/4/5/deed.jpg
Allowing these apartments to continue to be abandoned is something that FPC should no allow to continue.
who was the owner? if its Marcus The Estate Broker, then its MA´s own avatar.
regards
It wasn’t Marcus. I didn’t want to do any naming.
why not?
Why not? If the deed holder still has an active account, there is nothing wrong here. Yes, the apartment is not able to be entered, but it’s still owned by the person holding the deed. Besides that, it might already be owned by the estate broker, but the terminal does not show it since that only shows up if the thing is claimed…
The ownership of the deed certifies ownership of the estate…
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/1/5/2/5/2/deed2.jpg
Since the estate’s ownership is certified, there’s nothing wrong with the monthly fee not being paid. In the future, maybe on other planets, new estates may not have deeds like this?.. but since deeds exist, and they certify ownership, as long as the participant that owns the deed is active, there’s nothing wrong here. Move along.
I too think it’d be nice if everyone paid their monthly fees, but the truth of the matter is some people just use apartments as big storage boxes, long term storage of sorts, and they pay when they want access only… so it’s kind of like a vault with a 10 ped a month fee to unlock the vault… and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Except it reduces revenue for FPC and it inflates the market price of those apartments that are currently being used.
If accounts are no longer active then by all means FPC should reclaim them, but i dont think the fact that i havent paid the fee on my apt in probably 18 months means i no longer have the right to it.
cc
Lol. I would like a fee for neurons that are not used. That would save the world from poverty. Above average neuron users should be payed by the ones below average for the effort of keeping the trend over that of the monkeys.
maybe they should reclaim all the unused weaponry, armor, clothes as well 
as they’re not generating decay.
Why should I pay the fee and open up any of my apts, when decorating still is a part that is not working at least a bit more reliable?
Given that there is so much more important stuff for MA to finish first I don’t believe I’ll be able to open up any of my apts within the next half or even full year.
And with “being able to” I mean I want to have more different and also more reliable decoration elements that don’t change from VU to VU and also I want useful and affordable light sources.
I spent a whole weekend once to create a party apt and it was good fun, now I could spend the same amount of time and would not even get anything remotely as good looking done.
Until MA fixes the stuff so this area of the platform is reliable I predict the amount of apts in use will go down even more, BUT this really should be something that gets attention when the more important aspects are finished.
(Even though I’d like to decorate again sniff)
From what I have heard/read, many apartments are unused because a few ppl bought up a lot of them when they came and then never claimed them, thus never having to pay the fee… and then keep them to sell them off a few at the time at much higher prices :dunno:
Ok…at least give me squatters rights. If I find an abandoned apartment let me live there for free until the owner pays the fee.
Most of the G apartments (the ones with double rooms and balconies) all got bought by investors before anyone else got a chance. Then the single room with balcony apartments went and that left the single room apartments for the rest of us but I think all the remaining ones of those got bought by a single person / company in a bulk purchase from MA a few years ago. I might be wrong just what I remember from the time as apartments used to cycle on the auction for several months and then they all disappeared overnight.
Not true really, there were quite a few G appartements still available for quite some time after the release.
But the idea about MA reclaimining them is totally BS. 99% of people don`t really need the appartements on a regular basis, unless you are a hair/body stylist or doing something along those lines.
Are you serious?!?!?
If you want an apartment, buy one. :rolleyes:
From what I have heard/read, many apartments are unused because a few ppl bought up a lot of them when they came and then never claimed them, thus never having to pay the fee… and then keep them to sell them off a few at the time at much higher prices
Currently my apartment, 1D in the Delta Tower at Omegaton is on the Auction. It’s priced at a price that’s actually about 100 peds below the price I paid for it. If you want to keep this type of argument up, why don’t you buy it, and start paying the rent fees on in monthly?
It also does not help the fact that MA does not let us “drop” deeds in estates, so they can only be sold in person to person sales, on auction, or in a shopkeeper, but not in a real in game shop or booth…
If I’m not mistaken, there have been two or three “G” apartments available on auction within the last moth or so.
It’s amazing what you can find if you actually watch the auction on a regular basis for particular items.
Who owns an estate that costs monthly fees has to pay the fees or lose the deed. If in RL just ANYONE could buy everything and wait until it’ll get more expensive… yeah, nothing to say about that… And if someone can’t pay his fees in RL… you know what happens - and it would be in auction…
Um most the negative replies are missing the point… although I agree with OP… he made a post with a picture showing a user whose owned an apartment for almost 5 years and not paid fees once… that IMO is unacceptable… first of all like has been stated it robs MA, and possibly the rest of EU of PEDs… 2nd of all… it causes prices to remain high on apartments or causes an increase…
Now people who’ve closed shop or what not recently due to MA lack of fixing stuff is understandable… but 5 years without fee’s… thats some BS…
Now heres my issue… Im guessing when you bought your apartment maybe demand was up? Maybe there were very few around maybe price was high… not 100% sure… or it was low and you bought it…
I understand that it sucks because prices are essentially going down, but for most things prices are dropping… people dont want to pay shit loads of money for deeds… theres so many deeds out there and so many that could be made available if MA did something… the current issue right now is… people paid $XXX for their deeds… they want at least $XXX for it… but most peopel these days think and want the same deeds for less… which doesn’t sit well with owners who wont sell for less usually… and does nothing for buyers…
With so few deeds around and even less being traded price remains high… where usually buyers wont pay… and sellers cant sell… which usually causes what could be a nice real estate market to just remain frozen…
Personally Id love a booth… but prices for most remain extremely high IMO… With my belief that prices are to drop in time I dont want to buy at par because I believe prices to drop soon… and if I buy at par… I believe in future Ill be screwed while the seller/owner will be happy since he got what he needed/wanted… leaving me with the risk…
Its a double ended sword… I understand both sides… What needs to happen is MA needs to open up more frozen estates that they hold… this might fuck over current owners… since it could cause price to drop… but… at the same time itll help MA out with possible people who will pay their rents or then again maybe more prospectors will come in… Either way… I think prices are due to drop… problem is no one enjoys selling at a loss… and if their is no rush to sell and no fees to pay to keep the estate then they can sit on it FOREVER until price goes up… thats what I hate…
I think in the long run… MA will have to release more PC shops… and if not… RT will release shops… so that will IMO drop the price down overall… only time will tell… just my arguement for a shop is… I can go around sell my stuff where I want with no fee’s and no costs or on auction for a bit of a cost… or I can invest 5k and do the math to see what my savings are on auction… but then I have to lower price in shop to attract customers… I gotta do math still before I can see the value in the booth for myself…
ANYWAYS… tahts a long rant :D… hopefully MA figures this out… would be nice to see more trading of property to happen.. as Im sure many people want to run shops/aprts/mall shops… but the cost remains so high that most players cant afford to do it without heavy investing…
I think MA/FPC should remove the monthly fee (or reduce it by like 90%) to encourage people to use them. More decorations and furniture would be crafted and bought.
I have an apartment that I don’t use, cause of the fee.
Its nothing more than artificial market creation. There used to be a flood of them and they werent worth alot. Now there are only so many so the price stays up a bit more.