Outbacko vs. Jester D-1

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For a long while now, I’ve wondered to myself which of the two main skilling rifles is the superior. With Outbackos currently being auction for upwards of twenty PEDs, it seems the Jester has been left in the dust - but I have never seen any evidence as to which one is superior. I decided to test for myself.

For the test, I will fire each of the guns ten thousand times, without attachments, and calculate the decay on each one. I will then use the data collected to determine these facts:

  • rate of decay for each gun
  • efficiency of each gun (damage per PEC)

If there is a difference in the two guns, I will also determine this:

  • amount of discrepancy between the two
  • how much better the superior gun is over the inferior

[size=4]Phase 1: Sollomate Outbacko[/size]

Start TT: 4.0 PED
Ammo: 20,000 Medium Weapon Cells
Uses: 10,000
Finish TT: 2.0 PED
Decay per 10,000 uses: 2.0 PED

Decay: 0.02 PEC/shot
Damage/PEC: 3.96

Weight: 2.1 kg
Reload: 1.4 seconds
Range: 50m

[size=4]Phase 2: Jester D-1[/size]

Start TT: 4.5 PED
Ammo: 20,000 Medium Weapon Cells
Uses: 10,000
Finish TT: 2.5 PED
Decay per 10,000 uses: 2.0 PED

Decay: 0.02 PEC/shot
Damage/PEC: 3.96

Weight: 2.0 kg
Reload: 1.4 seconds
Range: 50m

As you can see, the guns are VERY similar. Statistically, though, it is the Jester D-1 that is technically superior. This crafted gun has a higher total TT value (lasts longer before needing repair) and weighs a scant tenth of a kilogram less. Not large differences, but they are differences.

I was hoping for different results. I had my fingers crossed that the Outbacko would turn out to be much better, but no such luck. Even though they sell for many times the amount that Jesters do, Outbackos are in reality no better than their crafted counterparts.

[size=4]Winner (by a nose): Jester D-1[/size]

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Great test. I think the outbacko seels more because it doesn’t ooze the skilling/noob-factor.

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[QUOTE=Shadow-Ale]
Great test. I think the outbacko seels more because it doesn’t ooze the skilling/noob-factor.
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Thats why I use outbacko and m2201 for skilling. Paid tt+1 for both :smiley:

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I´m not a rifle user. So i skill with m2201 :cool:

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same shit diferent names i say :smoke:

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[QUOTE=Rain Man]

[size=4]Phase 1: Sollomate Outbacko[/size]

Start TT: 4.0 PED
Ammo: 20,000 Medium Weapon Cells
Uses: 10,000
Finish TT: 2.0 PED
Decay per 10,000 uses: 2.0 PED

Decay: 0.02 PEC/shot
Damage/PEC: 3.96

Weight: 2.1 kg
Reload: 1.4 seconds
Range: 50m

[size=4]Phase 2: Jester D-1[/size]

Start TT: 4.5 PED
Ammo: 20,000 Medium Weapon Cells
Uses: 10,000
Finish TT: 2.5 PED
Decay per 10,000 uses: 2.0 PED

Decay: 0.02 PEC/shot
Damage/PEC: 3.96

Weight: 2.0 kg
Reload: 1.4 seconds
Range: 50m

As you can see, the guns are VERY similar. Statistically, though, it is the Jester D-1 that is technically superior. This crafted gun has a higher total TT value (lasts longer before needing repair) and weighs a scant tenth of a kilogram less. Not large differences, but they are differences.

[size=4]Winner (by a nose): Jester D-1[/size]
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Happy to see the results, thanks for taking it upon yourself to test and share the results. I use newb D-1, just fine with me. Now even more so fine since I saved the ped on the purchase price. I’m confused about one thing you wrote.

The SO TT starts at 4 and finishes at 2, thats a 2 ped diff. The D-1 starts at 4.5 and finishes at 2.5, thats also 2 ped diff. How does the D-1 “last Longer” if its the same diff? Thank’s for clueing me in. I’m still trying to understand such things…

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i skill hunt with hand gun so i use man mph its best for skill hunting but ring skilling use the m20021

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[QUOTE=Mac]

The SO TT starts at 4 and finishes at 2, thats a 2 ped diff. The D-1 starts at 4.5 and finishes at 2.5, thats also 2 ped diff. How does the D-1 “last Longer” if its the same diff? Thank’s for clueing me in. I’m still trying to understand such things…
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it lasts longer because it has a higher full tt, meaning it will take a longer time to shoot the whole tt away with the d-1 then with the outbacko.

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[QUOTE=Mac]
The SO TT starts at 4 and finishes at 2, thats a 2 ped diff. The D-1 starts at 4.5 and finishes at 2.5, thats also 2 ped diff. How does the D-1 “last Longer” if its the same diff? Thank’s for clueing me in. I’m still trying to understand such things…
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If they both decay at the same rate but one has a higher maximum value, that one will take longer to decay fully. In this case that’s the Jester.

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[QUOTE=Rain Man]
If they both decay at the same rate but one has a higher maximum value, that one will take longer to decay fully. In this case that’s the Jester.
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I must be a dolt. This still doesn’t make sense to me the way I think of such things.

If they both have the same difference - or spread - of 2 ped each between upper and lower TT value to decay - at the same rate - then I don’t get why one would take longer to decay then the other :dunno:

If the higher TT value implies that the decay is slower, then doesn’t that imply a different rate of decay? And if that’s the case, wouldn’t the decay be less? Sorry to be so thick headed here, but It is a fundimental element of this game I am trying to understand.

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[QUOTE=Mac]
I must be a dolt. This still doesn’t make sense to me the way I think of such things.

If they both have the same difference - or spread - of 2 ped each between upper and lower TT value to decay - at the same rate - then I don’t get why one would take longer to decay then the other :dunno:

If the higher TT value implies that the decay is slower, then doesn’t that imply a different rate of decay? And if that’s the case, wouldn’t the decay be less? Sorry to be so thick headed here, but It is a fundimental element of this game I am trying to understand.
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put a shot glass full of whisky and a pint glass full of whisky next to each other. drink both of them at the same rate. which will you finish first?

the shot glass of course, because it doens’t hold as much whisky.

the jester holds .5 more ped worth of “decability” (yep, i made that word up).

make sense?

if not, think of it this way…if rain man for some insane reason went and shot each one 10,000 more times, the outbacko would need to be repaired but the jester wouldn’t.

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[QUOTE=Silo]
if not, think of it this way…if rain man for some insane reason went and shot each one 10,000 more times, the outbacko would need to be repaired but the jester wouldn’t.
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Hehe, I like how you added the word ‘insane’. It’s very appropriate. Imagine shooting 400 PEDs of ammo 2 PEC at a time. :wink:

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[QUOTE=Rain Man]
Hehe, I like how you added the word ‘insane’. It’s very appropriate. Imagine shooting 400 PEDs of ammo 2 PEC at a time. :wink:
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:smiley:

what the heck did you shoot at? and just out of curiousity, how much did your rifle skill go up while conducting the test.

you have dedication, my friend.

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Main difference - color.
Everyone laughs at a man with a red gun!

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[QUOTE=maniac]
Main difference - color.
Everyone laughs at a man with a red gun!
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Nah, they actually look decent compared to the old pink model. :eek:

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Those stats are pretty helpfull, and they show no significant diference in both guns (50 pecs when it decays 0.02 pec per shot really doesn’t matter much).

It confirmed what I already thought about those guns , it’s only the way they look and the status component :wink:

But even so , they might have some diferences, for example one of them could be easier to do a higher damage %. Or even a higher skillgain (although I doubt this one). But these things are much harder to test.

But good work :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=Silo]
:smiley:

what the heck did you shoot at? and just out of curiousity, how much did your rifle skill go up while conducting the test.

you have dedication, my friend.
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I skilled at the Berycleds and Daikibas northwest of Port Atlantis. I think overall my Rifle increased from about 1790 to 1960. 170 points.

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ok, I get it now. I was missing the diff in min tt between the two. DUH!

Thank you RainMan for taking the time to exain it on Irc!

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wow 0.5TT more on d-1 and it weights 0.1 less :smiley: Go d1 go d1 go d1 :silly2:

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lol. :slight_smile:
Well D1 look like crap so that why I use Outbacko :dunce: