When a player offers pixie/goblin for tt or payment in sweat @0.5, they are actually trying to help.

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So I had a gazillion pixie and goblin parts. And I thought I would feed them to the tt, then I got this really nice idea.. why not offer them for tt to the new players at camp swamp, or if they don’t have pecs yet, I will offer them to pay in sweat @ 0.5

So after 10 minutes of repeating my line and putting some free pixie parts on the top of the turret while I shout find the free pixie! , some players are eager to get some parts.. I scan them to make sure they are new players.
One wants to see my pixie, so I show some pixie, then he says I am a scammer because they are not fully repaired.. So I step over it, try to explain, but he insists I am a scammer etc etc.

I repeat my line again: Pixie and goblin parts for tt or pay in sweat at 0.5 (new players only) @ turret

Then one says he wants some goblin, so I try to get the one with the lowest tt out there, 0.66 pecs. And he asks how much it is in sweat. So I say 120 (rounding the 66 pecs to 60 pecs).
So then he tries to get it for 100…

End of the story: the TT loved the rest of my pixie and goblin parts.

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this is strictly about giving away the armor - not about selling techniques or sweat trade - just how I do it. =)

They’re a weary bunch, there - most days. It’s understandable, since we teach them to be weary and cautious of scammers and bad deals, etc. etc.

one time a year or two back, we were trying to open a wormhole to basically anywhere the sweaters wanted to go. the rig, fort argus, twin peaks .. anywhere (minus cnd/cp :stuck_out_tongue: lol) a handful of them spent at least 10 mintues calling Nadie and I scammers .. :laugh: :duh:

For years, I’ve randomly given away a bunch of noob armor/opalos+ammo/tt weapons, etc away at noob camps. (phoenix .. then swamp camp .. and now nea’s, too)

I find the best way to do it, is bring a scanner - scan someone - if they meet your ‘noob criteria’ – walk up trade them , hand it over and say - “a gift from me/my society/whoever to you.”

The hardest part was (1) letting them know how to use armor/guns and (2) keeping up with who I had already ‘gifted.’

So, usually right after the trade, I’d type like crazy just to let them know about armor repair, how to use guns, hotkey - whatever they needed to know. Now we can COPY/PASTE in game - so that part’ll be way easier. :yay:

Then - I’d pull their lifelines and put them to the extreme left of my screen once they got the gift; so no double gifting. :smiley:

It’s all about the approach - no matter what you’re doing in those parts of the game. Buying, selling, giving away, tp running, offering services, mentoring … whatever it is. I find there’s always someone there saying you’re trying to do something wrong. :duh:

Hope ya find a way to get your stuff out there - it’s always fun to give stuff away. But, putting it on the ground, doesn’t always mean it’s going to ‘real noobs’.

Have fun ! :wave: :yay:

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People, especially newbies, are idiots. (the term idiot not meant as harsh as it sounds)

Personally, I don’t bother doing these kind of things. I do like to help, but I won’t try to force it on people (or look like I’m doing so). If people want help or something else from me, they can ask and I’ll be grateful if they do, but the other way just don’t work.

Best regards.

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Newbies are not puppies.

Always remember. :wise:

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People, especially newbies, are idiots. (the term idiot not meant as harsh as it sounds)
Don’t use the term idiot… uneducated on some aspects of the virtual universe might be a better phrase to use

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The correct term is ignorant.

The idea of the TT and TT value is a concept that newcomers are not going to have. Maybe we need a clear write up on just this, that we can point new players to?

The are ignorant of the game, and need to learn it yet. In any case, as your subject says, offering to bater at the market rate for sweat items at tt value is definatly not a scam, and is help for the clueful newcomer. Wish I had run into you doing that when I was brand new off the ship.

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I did something similar last week

See my post…not sure how to add link, “Giving something back”
I just gave them full TT Pixie harnesses after scanning them to make sure they were new.
I do it by PM because there is always someone there who thinks your intentions are bad and if you use the open chat they all jump on you and bad mouth you.
If the new player responds to your PM and realises that you are honest, simply offering some free help, a piece of armour to get them started they always appreciate the gift and whatever advice they ask about. I had suggested to some of my recipients that when they can afford it they give the armour away as well to keep the tradition going.
Good luck, maybe we should meet and do this
Cheers
Bjorn

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Not all newbies come with fluffy clouds and rainbows I am sad to say.

But think you tried to do a nice thing for us nubs and +rep for that.

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When I first started playing Project Entropia - a long time ago now - I would craft Jester D1s and sell them for TT+.25 in Port Atlantis.

Eventually a new player would ask me to sell them one - I’d open up trade and put a low TT gun in the window. I would do this because I figured new players had less money and didn’t want to tie up money in TT value of the gun - they’d rather have it in ammo.

About half the time the player would start yelling ‘Scammer’ because the gun was nearly ‘broke.’

I would take the time to explain how guns decay and need to be repaired. I really tried to explain the entire system to them. Then I’d offer to sell them a completely repaired gun.

Of course, that means the price was higher. At this point the player would start screaming ‘Scammer’ again and go on about how I am changing the price of the gun.

Sadly, this is why I try to avoid doing anything for new players except helping with a TT run or some healing at Swamp Camp. Trying to sell a new player an item at TT value isn’t worth the hassle.

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I sometimes help noobs, but I usually wait untill they understand the concept of TT value. It is much less frustrating then.

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Dont worry … someone made me a scammer because i was buying swear at 1.0 when the price was 0.6 but only for those who i scan first …

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Yesterday a newb at Swamp was spamming “3k sweat 15 ped”. Since I needed about 1k I pm’d him saying I would offer 6 ped for 1k, which he refused. I wasn’t accused of being a scammer but his almost immediate reply “no” took me a little off guard since I thought I was doing him a small favor offering a price 20% higher then his asking price. Guess he was selling all or nothing. :confused:

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ahhh, but they are so cute :smiley:

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sold a bravo cheaply(friends price) to a noobie friend
once.
Then i get pm back ty i sold it and made great profit

Great move of “friend”
so i stopped giving stuff away or below marketprice

in the old days of mentoring lots of disciple scammers (second avatars)
that accept a mentor i hope of newbie gear
then transfer the gear to main character and kick mentor and look for new one

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I love newbies. Particularly grilled on a spit over an open fire with a nice tangy bbq sauce lightly brushed on… Mmmmm…

Blackjack :cowboy:

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I was doing exactly the same last night. No one even bothered to check out my items. Newcomers bought only those with TT+x shouted.

I was shouting “Trading Pixie/Goblin parts for sweat. No markup. 0.5 sweat rate”. Guess they thought I’d rip 'em off.

Ended up TT’ing the stuff. :smiley:

EDIT: And I’m not talking about few parts. I got like 15 different pixie armor parts and approx 20 goblin armor parts. They were filling up my storage.

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I once gave a newbie a free opalo and said he could collect sweat and sell it to get ammo so he could shoot with it… he threatened to report me to “the developers” for scamming if I didnt give him the ammo for free :rolleyes:

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Personally I think the best thing we can give a noob is information. Giving them armour/guns/ammo or any other object just makes them get used to getting freebies. There is a well known saying that goes something like:
Give a man a loaf or bread and you will feed him for a day. Teach hime how to grow crops and you will feed him for life.
Perhaps in EU we can say:
Give a noob an Opalo and he will hunt until he is out of ammo. Teach him how to hunt and he will get a HoF.

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Once I had a disciple (when mentoring was the thing) and offered to buy sweat from him at quite a bit over market, as a gesture and to help him get started faster. Next day he dropped off 5k bottles of sweat, that he had bought in sweatcamp ofc. :laugh: He was obviously a fast learner and he did graduate in the end.

Selling stuff to just anyone in PA or sweatcamp is not worth the bother. Giving people advice and helping them out to get started is. If they stay ingame you can always offer them a good deal on a pixie/goblin set, when you know they have grasped the basic concepts.

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