I bought yesterday and E-amp 15 to use it with my opalo.
Ive been using A105 on it up till now, but i need more power.
I know that dam/pec with A series is above 4 and E series above 3 but it might
be worth it with opalo due to its high stats.
For example, you wont miss as much n stuff,you`ll do max dam and extra damage from time to time and you get extra range also, maybe that will make up for the extra decay of the amp, plus u get to hunt larger mobs with it.
What do you think?
hmm don’t know that is an huge ass decay amp.. maybe go with like an 106 or and 204.. ???
off hand , top of my head you will only lose like an few damage, not even worth noticing.
and you will save so much in decay..
Not to say that the 106 or 204 don’t decay a lot too, but an hell of a lot less then an eamp15..
On my opalo I use an 105 myself
On my mm I use an 106
When I had imk2 used an 106 with it too..
Did have an 204 but found that the 106 (-2 pts damage) cost ½ of an 204.
I use the eamp 15 on my fox trot me, but that is mostly for pk’ing and maybe to tag an mob.. Keep in mind its an slow weapon and is not meant for a lot of firing on any one target.
You say you need more damage? something tells me you might be hunting out of your charters abilities and or skills?
what mob you hunt and HP you have? and your skills?
Equipment will be an huge factor too.
I would not say go hunt an atrox for most players with that gun, unless they have an uber fap.. even then it might be an waste of peds and or time.
I would try only to use the E-amps with slow firing weapons…mainly the Marber Plasma’s…and even then probably only for PK…
Althought friends and I have thought that as the E-amp 15 has more damage types…assuming you do a minimun of 1 dam for each type u will get a better minumum/average damage…so decay might be worth it…after all this dam/pec everyone talks about is based on max damage…
I use sometimes opalo with a204. It is really great. The only thing is that I don’t gain so much skills with it. Opalo is a great gun. Depend of the regeneration of health to the mob you hunt, you can amp it with different power. Since opalo does not require so high skills to manage it efficient, it can be an allround weapon for medium skilled ppl. (Rifle skill lower then 6k)
well with e-15 i get 15,5-31 dam
and with a105 i get 12 - 24 dam
there`s still a difference
I can hunt meffs and argos with it and bercyled stalker and such.
I say u have to take into account that the faster you kill a mob the less decay you get on armour. So here is another reason pro E-amps.
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well with e-15 i get 15,5-31 dam
and with a105 i get 12 - 24 dam
there`s still a difference
I can hunt meffs and argos with it and bercyled stalker and such.
I say u have to take into account that the faster you kill a mob the less decay you get on armour. So here is another reason pro E-amps.
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The adventage the e-amp has, is the high damage. The disadvantage it has, is the high decay. Since it has high decay and also is craftable, it is also affordable for most ppl. I suggest that you try it out, but be carefull with it and count your average damage together with your gun to see your real dmg/pec and dmg/sec. You are right about that you can save decay on armor and fap when you are using higher damage weapon. (In this case Opalo+eamp15) How it will work for you, depend of your hunting style.
If you wanna hunt much with it, I recomand you to search for a204 or if you think it is to expensive, take a look at the a105 and a106 since they have less decay. You need to find the way you like best and the way you feel more comfortable. Personally, I like the opalo gun with amps, since I don’t miss much with it. (only some lag-issues)
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have done some testing with E-amp 15
and i say it`s worth it. try it!!!
i think you can go with highest damage amp for opalo, e-15 does that for you.
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I’d have to seriously say that’s a bad decision for the Opalo. Instead of getting the dmg / pec to over 4 dmg / pec, you lower it rather significantly. Although it compensates by doing at least 50% dmg, the e-15 still wastes unecessary ped. With 1.5 second reload on the Opalo, I’d have to say the increase of dmg / sec is not significantly better than that of an a105 amped Opalo. You save MINIMAL pecs on armor decay and such.
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I’d have to seriously say that’s a bad decision for the Opalo. Instead of getting the dmg / pec to over 4 dmg / pec, you lower it rather significantly. Although it compensates by doing at least 50% dmg, the e-15 still wastes unecessary ped. With 1.5 second reload on the Opalo, I’d have to say the increase of dmg / sec is not significantly better than that of an a105 amped Opalo. You save MINIMAL pecs on armor decay and such.
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I say having maximum uber skill with opalo totally makes up for extra decay and you get to hunt bigger mobs= better items=better return.
I can hunt for example feffs beserkers and warriors with opalo and E15 using just that , and tt powerfist for finish :D.
Using E-Amp15 on Opalo is just plain stupid. The dam/pec on Opalo is 3.96 for 8 damage and the E-Amp15 3.47 for 23 damage (note that the generally very incorrect chart pe-wiki show 21 damage and 3.17 dam/pec). The total dam/pec would be 3.60 dam/pec. Though since the Opalo have higher average damage the dam/pec comparable to normal guns would be 4.15. (3.60*(0.75/0.65))
So generally you have a 31 damage gun with ~20.7 dam/sec and 4.15 dam/pec with which you gain virtually no skills. Equals crap.
Imagine instead using a lower damage amp A105. Very cheap and easy to get. I would personally choose A204 or A106 but to be fair let’s say A105. The Opalo has still 3.96 dam/pec. The A105 has 16 damage and 4.61 dam/pec. Using the amp wields a total of 4.39 dam/pec, comparable to 5.07 dam/pec on a regular gun. (4.39*(0.75/0.65))
So, with A105 we have instead a 24 damage gun (yes 7 points lower) with ~16 dam/sec and economy of 5.07 dam/pec.
Which would you choose? I know what I would.
To put some perspective on it let’s use an A105 on another gun. A Justifier Mk II for example.
You get 39.3 dam/sec, 59(!) max damage 4.24 dam/pec. Plus you will gain skills.
So why, choose an Opalo+E-Amp15 which is a lower damage, lower damage per second, lower damage per pec and probably cost about the same? If the only argument is boosting damage/sec when choosing E-Amp15? I just don’t get it…
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I think he’s playing uber. Not doing a very good job though.. I hope you found my post enlightning.
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well still better than cleric dagger 3c i use 3,2 dam/pec and much much worse without lots of skills
so i say amp 15 with opalo it`s still a treat even if dam/pec is worse
i use it with 105 on some mobs and with 15 on tougher ones
and 7 extra dam still counts, cos u do 7 extra every time you fire
[QUOTE=Mikass]
and 7 extra dam still counts, cos u do 7 extra every time you fire
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7 extra damage is 7 potential extra damage. If you use it with a weapon where your average is 75%, the 7 extra damage is average 5.25 extra damage. Let us say that you miss 1/10 of the shots, then you have to take away 0.525 damage and final result is 4.725 damage extra.
For a weapon where you do f.ex 64% average damage it would be 4.48 damage. If you with that weapon miss 1/8 shots, you will do netto 3.92 extra damage.
Geez ppl caalm down a bit - i was just joking - joke? You know what a joke is dont you? i know it wasnt a very good one but it has all the characteristics if a ironic joke! Just joking around: Todayz new word:
Joke
Ironic
now the compilation: Ironic joke. Also refferd to as the: Joke full of ironie
Btw if i was ubbering itd look like this: “Hell no, buy my mod-fap instead”
So what about the opalB gun? 12 damage and 70 range and also maxed damage range? You know the one you can buy at the thorifoid weapons dealer in north amethera?
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Geez ppl caalm down a bit - i was just joking - joke? You know what a joke is dont you? i know it wasnt a very good one but it has all the characteristics if a ironic joke! Just joking around: Todayz new word:
Joke
Ironic
now the compilation: Ironic joke. Also refferd to as the: Joke full of ironie
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Erm… AFAIK jokes doesn’t have to be explained, esp. ironie or sarcasm. Never.