Still a pirate?

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Jetsina, it is Interesting what you said that phrases can have different meanings, yes you are correct.
I thought my meaning was clear especially as I had the IF and THEN in capitals. However, it could be taken as an action that may happen, OR as a comment on an action that has already happened.
Forget about British English though, we are not all Pommies here, this is an international Forum - it highlights the potential difficulties and misunderstandings that could occur.

That player who may have been a pirate once - well now it seems he aint no more & has turned over a new leaf - he should be complimented, publically :slight_smile:

The drama arises here from certain players racing to be arbiters on the character of players - by secret messages. Without the knowledge of the players being accused.

You would think its a matter of Sticks & Stones etc. but names will never hurt me. Well Granny guess what, that sneaky carry on can & does hurt players - myself & JJ for a start. Such actions are not appreciated, nor forgotten in a hurry. Going to something, well do it openly.

And that stuff about members of your crew being able to do whatever they want without their actions affecting your reputation in any way. Well guess what, thatā€™s not how the world works.

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wtf are you talkig about? you saying its me hangin around sweat circles talking shit? How new are you to even have thought that? Another relative of Ben? =p

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Iā€™d check out the new space map, it has changed A LOT in terms of zoning. Itā€™s also much easier to avoid pirates now that they cant effectively spawn camp the space stations for travelers. Basically just fly up or down and in a random direction till you ā€œz coordinateā€ on your position is +/- 1k, then stop, set final destination waypoint and fly to it. Reason is pirates now spawn at a space station, set direct waypoint for the path they want to camp. Popular ones like ark>caly path, then they fly till they get 0.30AU within lootable pvp, stop, turn around and wait in their gunner seats for travelers to ambush flying by. So if you avoid those main paths you should be alright most of the time, if you have to move a lot of lootables just take a warp to be 100% sure.

btw the event takes place in non-pvp area, so people can fly back to calypso and never hit lootable pvp from the event. Itā€™s almost impossible for a pirate to be able to ply his trade preying on the folks doing the new space event.

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Ok lets go back to my first post in this threadā€¦ My first comments were general, as they had to be in the absence of the supposed pirates name.
I then asked the OP to PM me the name so I could say whether or not I personally had seen them pirate recently. This was not a secret communication. If it had been, I would have simply pmā€™d the op and not even mentioned it.
I simply respected their right to withhold the name from forum and thereby avoid risk of breaking forum rules and or avoid confrontation.

A private conversation is just that private.. not secret, not malicious, just private

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u didnt even read my last post properly lol

i get that u were simply trying to be helpful and pass on what information u know about to the OP in a private message

the point i was trying to make is that when players talk about other players and their activities is that what information u are
passing on to the person asking could be potentially damaging to the person being talked about without their knowledge

that is why i asked u where does this information come from? and has every single person on your list and their activities
been 1st validated by u and other independent parties with actual evidence before u then pass on what u know to others?

as ive told u 1 of ur crew i know for a fact is making public accusations about a certain ship/crew and also about me he was
doing this in local chat on arkadia at celste outpost to other sweaters,
do u approve of this behavior from your crew members?
if u do then i personally i think that is quite disturbing and this behavior is far worse than piracy imo

its even worse if some of the information u pass on is coming from crew like this who is spreading lies about me then in turn u will
at some point end up passing on his same lies to others should some person ask is JJ really a pirate? what have they done?

i mean if its the same story he was telling others then wow JJ is a bad ass shes been pirating and disrupting space services etc
wellllā€¦ none of that is actually true lol

im not sure why this 1 person has taken such a strong dislike towards me he must have me confused with some1 else and either way
spreading lies about people in local chat like that is just wrong and out of order

well this crew member, he started it attacked me 1st with his lies and accusations and declared me his enemy and now im pretty sure
his crew is now also possibly my enemy, a shame cos until this guy started his nonsense i was actually neutral to this ship and her crew
and her captain i have even used their warp services and helped members of the crew even my accuser lol always 1 eh? to run it for others

i guess i can anticipate attacks on me in space and and land now as i bet he probably wants me to get angry enuff to shoot back at
him in space so he can record just in time to make it look like im attempting to pirate him lmao well good luck with that and enjoy
wasting ur ped cos im not gonna waste a single pec on u or ur crew il just continue to gather evidence of ur victimization and bullying
against me maybe i could do a youtube channel ..mad dog attacks again or something and add a squeaky toy sound effect for every
time he kills me lol

well it is what it is its probably to late now to resolve peacefully, if this guy really has it in for me he was never gonna stop anyway till
he got some sort of result, i just hope 1 day people who act like this will get whats coming to them when they eventually do it to the wrong
person or people and they start shoving back

to other players reading this if any person or group is sharing information about others then simply note the info
and use some common sense, is the person they are talking about their enemy or possible rival?, also go to them, see what they have to say
after all how can get the whole story if u only hear 1 sides version?

i hope that now people can see what i was getting at and makes sense lol

im not the bad guy in this did i perhaps overstep the mark bringing it here for all to see? maybe..
maybe i shoudnt have listened to some others that laughed at me and told me making a report and contacting the captain would be a waste of time
and nothing would get done and that if i wanted to make a difference and get noticed u have to do it publicly this person who is spreading rumors about
u is doing it so publicly so play them at their own game ,

besides i should never have felt the need to do this in the 1st place if that person hadnt been doing what he was doing and spreading lies about me in public
in the 1st place then i would not acted in the way that i have out of retaliation, so if any1 is to blame its that guy
i was quite happy minding my own business wanting to sweat a nusul with some sweaters and chillax, not have to put with his crap and have to defend myself

its quite sad when u cant even sweat a nusul in peace without having to have ur guard up lol
i guess now obs studio will be on perma record every single time im logged in to entropia in all areas im at untill i log out should i need it for any evidence ;]

note: no not u sinner ;] just ongoing drama of 2 anira class motherships who have been feuding for over a decade one believes they are the good guys/victims
and that their rival / enemy ship is full of evil scum / pirates and some of them seem to go out of their way to falsely label any associated with that ship as
pirates also ..well maybe not the newer players im not sure at what point a player is then hand picked for the reaper with his label gun to slap the label on them
and proceed to try to tarnish their reputation publicly with lies, i guess i must have been 1 of the chosen 1s recently lol give it a few months or something it will
be another person tho gets the pirate label slapped on them he must be really that bored he has to make new enemies for whatever reason.. come to think
of it he was oddly nice to noobs of that crew .. makes sense now he was probably trying to get them to defect dont go with those guys they are all pirate scum
oh look there is 1 of them right now ā€¦ .. me er what? lol

its silly that people are still being dragged into a drama thats so old and no longer even relevant since space was changed anyway some just really love their hate i guess lol
perhaps im going about this all wrong and caring about what others think about me to much, as some are gonna think what they like about me and come to their own conclusions true or not ā€¦fineā€¦ i cant do anything about that, and now im past caring ..they no longer matter to me and i dont care what they think nor do i answer to them, the only people who do matter to me are the people who know what im like really and good friends of mine and any other new nice people ive yet to meet ;]
now im gonna go sleep for a bit and enjoy playing the game when i wake up and redirect my focus to the right people and have fun ;] this will probably get buried and censored anyway at some point i did my bit i spoke up and stood up for myself and others cats out the bag people can do with it what they want ive said all i needed to say a nice cool feature i found in firefox is i can save the full page ..just incase stuff gets deleted and i need to remind myself of what was said ;]

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Ranavolana, I mentioned British English not out of any favouritism, but because that is an area where your phrasing towards Granny has a particularly strong meaning that is quite possibly not what you thought. If youā€™re going to use phrases which mean something different to them than to you, donā€™t be surprised if they get angry. You see, in British English, that last sentence has already happenedā€¦
Anyway, I get your other points too, I think. My main point was not to take sides, but quite a few posts ago now to highlight a difference in language use, specifically because English is so varied around the world.

JJ, reading as neutrally as possible, Granny has been criticised multiple times for simply offering to do her best for somebody asking a question, which you have also now acknowledged, so thumbs up from me. Your issue is ā€˜relatedā€™ - I get that - however, I donā€™t think Granny meant that ā€˜youā€™ couldnā€™t resist, but Ran, which she pretty much confirms later.

Anyway, grievancies have now been aired, as they say. GL to you both.

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Holy novel lol.. Let me just say cuz I couldnt even finish reading that =p. this thread seems to be mostly about talking or not talking about people. Most of these people traveling thru space with loads are my friends and NOT warning them could be potentially damaging to them as well. I would like every single one of them warned about any potential risks by everyone! kthx =p

All this whining is crazy.. Its ok to tell you when you have a load but otherwise not ok? I dont ask anyone to defend me, my actions do that for me.. Should I do something that upsets ā€œthe peopleā€ I shud and will be punished! end of storyā€¦

You guys talk so black and white about this heres an example for you to ponderā€¦ ErnestJ openly today says i give up pirating and im good now.. In how many days precisely is that considered to be 100% acurate? And is 99% good enough when your hauling 100k+ ped?

Iā€™m not even part of this and not even sure this is relevant but thats my opinion lol

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when we think of the word pirate it stirs up a range of emotions and feelings none of them good. we think of other words like
thief , scumbag, untrustworthy, evil , bully etc

so ofc the only kinds of people that would like a pirate are either pirates themselves, or benefit from their activities

it is good however that good people try to band together and to help other players be it from just helpful advice or
try to offer them safe passage from those that would shoot them down and loot them

however as far as advising other players go about who is a pirate i feel that its important to know for a fact that the person being
accused is in-fact guilty and not guilty by association as they are 2 very different things

cos if for example we see a ship where say u see 3 known pirates that u know for a fact are pirates cos they have looted u
but see 10 others on the same ship, they might not all be pirates, no matter how much u want them to be and some of those
other 10 might not know any of the others are pirates

so i tend not to trust people who can just slap that pirate label on others with total disregard to the possible damages they are
doing to innocent peoples reputation affecting their game play and friendships elsewhere in the game

and i certainly dont expect to be targeted by people that are supposed to be against bullying and pirates and trying to make
me the villain spreading lies about me and making accusations so i say unless u have proof of the things im being accused of
plz stop spreading lies and back off and leave me alone

ive lost a lot of friends in similar situations in real life in the past cos of jerks like these turning my friends against me with their
lies, sadly, some are so good at it that everyone thinks they are wonderful nice people .. until they become the target in their
sick twisted sport ..so ofc i get angry and paranoid when it seems like its starting to happen all over again being targeted
and falsely accused and lies spread about me

i mean how do u even protect yourself from people like that that seem to be out to get u? ignore them? report them?
expose them? especially when they seem to know all the rules probably chapter and verse and hide behind the fact that we cant
name and shame them and prove to all what they are really like and what they get up to

sometimes i dont even wanna play this game anymore cos of toxic fakes like this, that seem to have most people fooled
if it wasnt for the fact i have met some nice people and friends in the game i probably would just uninstall and never come back

mind u why should i leave??? its them that should be exposed and kicked out of the game . a game like this is meant to be a fun
enjoyable social experience with a chance to build a brand and maybe even make some real life cash doing so ;]

petty hatred and intentionally targeting/damaging peoples reputations maliciously to gain an advantage should not be welcome
in any game and not tolerated i think i found the right word for those people ā€¦ Vilifier .. that is far worse than any pirate or looter
in my opinion

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This may ofc in sometimes be true, but since the majority of pirates in this game proudly display their membership of Nebula Virus Elite society.. which only accepts pirates, then it would be a lot harder to believe people had no idea if they were in a ship together, especially after the first few battles, forum posts and un-doctored videos.
However if you and your friends want to continue in peace and want others to stop throwing accusations, then maybe you should fact check and also stop making accusations yourself.
One fact for instance is the 2 ships you have carefully not named have not been at war in space for over 10 years.
Firstly because Motherships have not existed for that long. Secondly because neither of the owners were first time buyers and have owned their ships significantly less time, Not to mention the issues started even later than that.

If people seriously want the enmity to subside and troubles become history, then stop raking over old coals, ignore any others that do, and let it become history. The solution is simple

As for my accusing people in ā€˜privateā€™ of being a pirate to the OP, I did not. The OP knew the person they were speaking of had been a pirate in the past (having been a victim), in fact I told them that to the best of my knowledge they had not pirated in years, but that if they heard otherwise at anytime, I would be grateful of a heads up. This neither makes me a pirate sympathiser nor an accuser. So please stop with the accusations based upon assumption. Take your own words to heart.

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OMG hahaha i think i finally have a clue who were talking about lol!! ill just stay out of this =p

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7m5Int1hAA

??? ?? ?? ???

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Well, I donā€™t know who the OP originally asked about. JJā€™s beef is about a different person, so itā€™s now a couple of origins and experiences mixed into one commonish theme - accusers and various accused from different angles. Nerves get frayed, sometimes justifiably, sometimes not. Sometimes others listen too little, sometimes they read too much into what others are saying, sometimes they simply misunderstand or donā€™t know enough about what has been happening. EU space is a micro-cosmos of the real world, is it not? Iā€™d prefer it to be better than that, howeverā€¦

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Mind like a steel trap there mspatterson - I guess it was the M in jjā€™s post way back that alerted you ;/

This thread has become a bit dark so about time to introduce some fun :slight_smile:
See those crows getting those cats to fight - silly cats do not realise they are being stirred up, those pecks to the tail were I guess the equivalent of PMs
One could say the crows were just trying to help - so much shit is caused in the game by PMs in the forum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPq7FXHjmHw

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Thanks for the reactions Morgoth, they brought you to my mind again ( I had tried to forget you) - reminded me of the time at Celeste Outpost where I had the opportunity to score a shit HoF, but I was scared to - last thing I wanted was you in my inventory especially as you had been in there twice before when you looted me in Space :frowning:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?media/giant-pile-of-shit-found-at-celeste-outpost.301784/full

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Can all of you crying space babies just pm to each other I stead of writing novels hereā€¦ All of you!

Because no one else then you are interested enough to read novels like this

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hmm ..so motherships havent existed for 10+ yrs huh? .. well i did not know ..that ofc i didnt know that cost ive only been playing since
2017-08-07 and im im pretty sure since u keep such detailed information about players u also know that also or roughly how long ive been
around so nice try trying to make me look the fool but ..where did i get that information from huh? .. well 1 of urs actually lol
and im pretty sure hundreds if not thousands of people have heard that same story from ur girl over the yrs bet ur boy is regretting now
picking on this innocent person, i didnt think the minions were behind this cleverly well planned out system i knew some1 bigger had to be
the brains behind the operation and i have a good idea who that is now ā€¦but i think u just messed up while trying to make me look stupid
bravo seems not so well thought out and planned after all huh? seems i know know its not just false information about players thats being
spread but also fake history also lessons lol

dont worry incase some try to bury the truth ive been taking screenshots of this among other things will continue gathering more evidence
as i let the true wrong doers give themselves enuff rope to hang themselves and since ur boi started this declaring me his enemy
im sure by now u and ur crew are also, so bring it on send ur army after me try n intimidate and harass me it will only further my case
against fake goodguy scumbags, and best part is i wont even fire a single damn shoot back not even worth wasting ped

if i am in space and need a warp id rather spend my peds on other decent space services that dont behave in a manner worse than the
pirates themselves so they wont get a single pec more out of me it might cost me wee bit more but im sure likes of sinner will be happy ;]

but yeh i agree it is getting abit tiresome having to defend my innocence cos a few people just cant let it go and want to drag others into their stupid games
i think ive done enuff here to help people open their eyes and use their brains and come to their own conclusions and realize they dont have to put up
with this kind of crap from anyone i didnt start it but im not going to let any push me around and tell lies about me,

well no more novels from me for a while now im starting to get what people mean by pcf drama lol

have fun guys enjoy the game, believe only 25% of what u hear 25% of alleged evidence (do check it that it hasnt been manipulated in anyway or possibly staged )
and the other 50% ? ..well from what u have personally seen people do and to u while playing the actual game and if u are gonna judge then judge by their actions
not what uve heard about them

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in firefox if u click the 3 dots in the address bar u can save whole pages some of ya might wanna do that ;]

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You know itā€™s against the rules to have an alt account right?

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Everyone talking about different people i think its wild rofl

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i know right lol u ever get that feeling when u do something u thought was a good idea and the right thing to do at the time and then it all went crazy and out of control and end up trying to fix it and regret ever doing it? ā€¦err ya lol

im not sure if geo`s question was aimed at me or not but i dont have alts i only have the 1 account and not prepared to take the risk for something i have no use for or need , i strongly suspect alot of others do do it tho but im guessing it would require alot of peds and time and besides if i tried itd id probably end up doing something stupid like going up to a friend i know quite well and talking about stuff my other avatar would have talked about or knew and realize oops this person had never met this avatar im playing as now so nah that sounds far too complicated and stressful for me lol