MY 2PECs regarding to Space Mining

Literally, 2 PEC loots or sometimes even less from C-Type VIII rocks - approx cost to kill is 54 ped.

This is a joke what is going on in this game and how MA is treating people.

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2PEC !!!

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1PEC !!!

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UPDATE:

FINALLY I receive some feedback from support regarding to low loots, here it is:

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?media/suppreplu-jpg.345615/full

Bless you MA for explaining where is the issue and that it will be fixed :slight_smile:

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The leap from high variance to mistreatment doesn’t feel very well motivated. It has long been possible to 50-PED-click a blueprint and fail outright. The tendency is of course that higher potential return accompanies higher risk, and players can factor the different variances into their decisions regarding which activities are best suited to their personal goals and circumstances. Cherrypicking unfavorable outcomes as a representation of an entire system is a pretty worn out trope IMHO.

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Im adgising everyone i know to avoid space mining but they refuse to read.

you could open a support case, but it’s just a loot problem, and it’s not damaging MA, so not sure about how long it will take them to reply or refund

The ticket was alredy opened few few days ago when I noticed those low loot appearing but as you said, MA dont bother with it and supp case is still without any reply.

[Globals]: Just The Iceman JTI found a deposit (C-type Asteroid VIII) with a value of 1790 PED! A record has been added to the Hall of Fame!

Gratz

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Thanks, if you interested that get me to 94% tt for today, not counted for previous weird low loots from rocks.

Yeah, from my perspective this doesn’t seem right. In hunting we’ve seen some no looters recently and the usual ‘minimum multiplier’ you get from hunting is around a 0.2x the one pec loots are definitely something that should get looked into.

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That would have been a bad loot even on a C1 type (2ped cost).

But since Entropia is not gamble and don’t need to comply with gambling laws, they basically can do whatever they want. And that is the main reason that this game will never be big, too much of obscure zones loot wise.

I have followed for years that a traditional minimum for mobs is 20% from an assumed dpp of 3. The max for the 1x range was 120%.
Asteroids are not really mining, but hunting of non-regen rocky mobs.
Some mobs have a varience of their multis and sizes, but asteroids still seemed to fit in as mobs in this regard. I decided fairly quickly that they were not for me, however, and I’d have to do a lot of skilling up to still be unsatisfied later on as well.

These loots take the biscuit, though. They are well outside the expected range and virtually no-looters. I don’t trust that these were generated ‘properly’ in accordance with payout totals graphs (volume beneath the curve), and are a further reason to be against the secrecy on payout percentages. Nor do I have faith in anybody at MA going into the depth required to flag up complaints as valid, instead of thinking of them as just complaints about bad luck.

Trust the system… load of garbage.

Becoming a cliche. If it is new from MA stay away! Ohh also buy popcorn…lots of popcorn.

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I tried space mining when it first came out and the returns were pretty decent. Stopped once the price of fragments tanked. Tried again yesterday to kill some time and was getting loots similar to the above fairly common, and even had a couple no-looters. That did not occur before, MA has definitely broken something.

Some update from support added in the 1st post

What was the response from Support? Can see what you’ve written Iceman, but not the reply from Support (empty green field).

Exactly, this is respond from support. Emty message :slight_smile: Mabey they run out of AI Support tokens for message generating :smiley:

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Damn, that’s crazy ?

O dam I really hope AI isn’t the support now lol it was bad enough when I thought it was some 3rd worlders with no game experience… time to delete space mining so we can get the 1 crafted item in game back (amps) and get economy moving at 3% of the speed it was in the good days.

Yeah happened to me also, last month, more than a couple of times, and that’s when I stopped my space mining.
I also sent a support case, please read bellow their answer:

[I]"Hey,

Thank you for contacting us. It is regrettable to hear that you are currently so displeased with your Entropia Universe experience.

As you might already know, since we are working with technical support we can not discuss in-world balance, therefore it is unfortunately not possible for us to give you a completely satisfying reply.

Please rest assured that we will forward this case to the ones responsible for such matters, this does not mean that they will answer or discuss this matter further.

Thank you for your patience and understanding."[/I]