How Fixing Land Areas Could Help All of Entropia

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[COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]A few days ago, I released a video on why land area owners in EU are losing PED. If you haven’t seen it yet, you can check it out here:

[COLOR=rgb(26, 188, 156)]Video :wave:

[COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]In it, I dug into the economics behind LA maintenance costs, low event participation, and how the current model hurts both players and the platform alike.

[COLOR=rgb(247, 218, 100)]The Current Land Area Crisis
[COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Owning an LA once thought to be a steady passive income—host events, collect fees, and watch your PED stack grow. But rising overhead and dwindling player engagement have flipped the script. Many LA owners now spend more PED on land upkeep, advertising, and prize pools than they can hope to recoup.

[COLOR=rgb(247, 218, 100)]Why Land Areas Matter
[COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Land areas are more than pixel real estate; they’re community hubs. They host unique events, foster social interaction, and drive the player-driven economy.

So you might ask, why am I beating a dead horse? I wanted to explain how fixing this system could boost the economy tremendously. :sweat:

[COLOR=rgb(0, 168, 133)]Fort Argus Bank 70k Loan :computer:

[COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]The $70,000 PED Loan Opportunity
[COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Right now, Fort Argus Bank is offering a 70,000 PED loan on LA deeds. On the surface, that might look like a massive gamble. But dream with me for a second: if land areas were fixed, instead of relying solely on out-of-pocket investment, owners could leverage this loan to build high-budget events with bigger prize pools, stronger marketing, and pro-level production.

Once these fixes are live a 70,000 PED loan transforms from a gamble into a powerful growth tool. LA owners can confidently invest in bigger prize pools, better marketing, and professional production, knowing the revamped mechanics support sustainable returns.

Benefits for Players and MindArk

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[li][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Players: Gain more varied, professionally run events with reliable prize pools and transparent rules.[/li][li][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Landowners: Use leverage instead of equity, opening the door to rapid scaling without fronting huge sums of PED.[/li][li][COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]MindArk: Sees increased game activity, higher transaction volumes, and a reinvigorated community narrative[/li][/ul]
[COLOR=rgb(251, 160, 38)]Land areas could be engines of growth. By leveraging the loan opportunity and reinvesting in smarter, bigger events, LA owners can turn risk into reward—and the ripple effects would benefit everyone, especially MindArk.

I made this a poll to get a vibe if the community agrees or if I’m missing something, if i am please comment below

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I think MA don’t give a shit about LAs and don’t plan to. They got their main money selling them off and now new thing they are working on is player owned planets so doubt they could even touch this before then if they wanted to it’d only hurt themselves and players with less ped to spend on the genesis probes and MU to make them. The only realistic and simple change MA could do is switch it to activity decay tax instead of loot tax, but they won’t do that either since MA already gets all of the activity tax plus fertilizer money. Maybe 1 of your other ideas you could get them to do and would help but knowing what I know of MA they just washed their hands of all it and moving on.

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Good idea , IF Argus had 70k

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Someone mentioned in another thread allowing LA owners to add items into the loot pool. If they could have a secure system set up by MA to ensure the item is truly in the loot pool I’m sure that’d bring about a lot more capacity ti make interesting LA events.

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Dont know too much about LA:s beside some being active having events and out of the game point systems.

Some are barren, some MA owned it seems.

Dead content gives the game bad look. ?

What little i’v heard so far does not seem to be enough lucrative to investors or managers.

Hope MA adds new systems, ways to customize and manage them. ?

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Not entirely sure what you are trying to say with this post to be honest, but one thing is for sure, Fort Argus Bank doesn’t have 70kped, so you won’t get a loan of 70k ped for your land deed there, last time i checked fort argus bank’s ped-roll was somewhere around 3-4k max in funds

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That’s a classic chicken-and-egg problem. If the LAs were properly revitalized, banks would issue loans like that all day long. I’d personally be interested in acquiring a bank myself if the system got the fix it deserves.

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Thats a classic "owner that you are referring to is no longer playing the game "problem.

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I asked for this when I had all my Arkadia LAs and it was rejected by Mindark (or was told that anyway). The reason I was given is because you could money launder/prize launder. Feel like it could have been done with an item point system that every land area got to use. X points consumed = more of Y item dropping etc but… hey… why have ideas…

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Hot take: Any LA owner could “fix” their land area by removing all DNA and requesting MA remove all of the natural creature spawns.
You now have a completely passive income generation source based on mining taxes, which you don’t have to spend any investment into maintaining.
Miners also have the best chance of recouping the loss in TT returns thru the MU of the ores/enmatters they find, and LAs generally have a limited fixed list of resources which miners can use to “target farm” specific ones.

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I’ve owned land and talked to a lot of miners. most won’t give up a % of their finds just to mine the same stuff they can get tax-free elsewhere. It’s like giving away alpha for no reason.

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[HEADING=2]Fixing Land Areas (LAs)[/HEADING]
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[li]MindArk, Planet Partners, and LA Owners should share the user’s expected TT loss — so that doing an activity inside an LA results in the same effective return as doing it outside.[/li][li]Give LA owners the option to refund part of their tax back to users(LA fee should be 0-100%, 0% no LA tax to the player), slightly reducing their own income but providing an incentive for activity and rewarding hunters/miners directly.[/li][/ol]
Simple as that.

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That idea sounds good in theory, but most LAs aren’t even profitable. Asking owners to refund tax just cuts into already nonexistent margins.

The real fix is making LAs more attractive through better events, spawns, or incentives

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They aren’t profitable because they aren’t attractive and they aren’t attractive because they reduce heavily the expected TT return of the users

But even if everything is ok why the seller of an LA(Planet partner)should keep getting fees of something that sold. I find this extremely greedy

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Back in the days of yore, there was some talk about LA owners being able to use genetics skills to create new variations of mobs and maybe even new mobs types via recipes. If you want to revitalize LAs in any capacity you need to give them the ability to make their areas unique to EU. It could be that way for mining as well in some other fashion with veins of specific resources only found through the owner using some geological surveying technique. When I look at ARIS it seems like this concept on a much larger scale. I also think it would help LA owners and generate more churn if these different mob varieties or new mobs carried specific loot and compounds. If LAs are going to charge an overhead in tax then there needs to be a reason for players to go there.

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This is actually a really good point.

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As someone who owns a LA alot of good points in this thread. I also think MA should consider giving us a higher % of the ped spent in the LA. Not higher taxes, just MA take less. I haven’t been active until lately though bc of mental health problems but I haven’t had the urge to sell mine at all or feel scared to keep it. I’m a player also not just businessman only so I want to see the game do well in all areas

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I’ve owned a landarea in the past. I fully support any system that allows these landareas more flexibility in how they run, incentivizes players to use them and incentivizes the land owner to actually run events on them.

THIS ONE IS REALLY IMPORTANT
The Event System should be much more at the forefront of the UI when logging in. I forget to even look half the time to see what’s going on. The next event should be much more prominent in the UI of whatever planet you are on. The UI for events, should have graphics for each event and a picture of the landarea, the UI can go along way to getting the community more involved with eachother. The UI still needs a massive amount of work, just a UI for new players to see all the major chat channels would go a long way!

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They should get rid of the fertilizer cost. This would allow much lower taxes, and in turn more activity. Been saying this for years.