it happened again…
Nusul mobs on arkadia were dropping good loot, me and others attended now 5 of us locked despite being over 40 people hunting there.
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-happy-hour.292588/
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[#arkadia] [Arkadia Zephyrus Community Manager] : just so you dont speculate to much, yesterdays loot are usual for an event day like boss attack, this time we had a 40k hof too
[#arkadia] [Arkadia Zephyrus Community Manager] : next boss attack event is 28th february
[#arkadia] [Arkadia Zephyrus Community Manager] : and we had a 11k in the first 40 min too. all around a fun day for all i think
so why am i and others locked? yet others who were there arent locked
I’m confused for what this even is because there’s 0 context.
loads of globals happened on ark nusul mobs, now me and others are locked it being deemed an exploit, over 40 people were there and only 5 locked it seems.
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This is speculation on my part:
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[li]Dev spawn event in the Celeste Quarry server, overall poor returns except a couple big hits[/li][li]This leads to extra PED in the local server loot pool needing to be paid out to hunters there[/li][li]No more large mobs exist on that server so the system can’t find anything to make a single big HOF with[/li][li]System starts paying out on the small mobs to bring the overall “95% return” back, since they collected too much into the pool[/li][li]People already hunting there start getting frequent globals in the area because the creatures can only pay out small amounts[/li][li]Someone from MA gets woken up at 2AM to SSH into the server and restart it, thereby emptying the overfull loot pool[/li][li]Some of the top players have their accounts locked while MA investigates potential wrongdoing, but it was just the loot system working as intended[/li][/ul]
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A few things in this whole “happy hour bug” situation really need to be looked at more realistically:
For many months Star now he has been paranoid about anything that could even remotely lead to a ban, and he was avoiding any potential troubles. I highly doubt he would suddenly risk an account worth tens of thousands just for 100 PED.
MA can easily verify what weapon was used and how many mobs were killed during that period, and they should do that before even considering whether any intentional or accidental exploitation took place.
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These mobs have around 300–500 HP and cost 0.8–1.4 PED to kill. A high‑DPS player who kill them with 1–3 shots them can easily fire ~70 shots per minute. With ~2 shots per kill, that’s about 1400 mobs in 40 minutes. With a 20 PED global threshold, ~20 globals in that timeframe is completely normal. Several players on EntropiaLife had similar numbers daily on similar mobs, so nothing here automatically indicates a bug.
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The only scenario that would clearly look broken is if someone killed maybe ~100 mobs and got 20 globals. But even then, the bug is on MA’s side, not the player’s. If MA wants to claim someone intentionally exploited it, the burden of proof is on them. The player is just shooting mobs normally and now they need to go inside his head to understand if he KNEW and if he did it on purpose.
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Many players grind half‑AFK, pressing “F” and glancing at a second monitor. With such a low global threshold and such fast kills, nothing would stand out as obviously wrong. You wouldn’t automatically think “loot is bugged”, you’d just assume you’re having a good run especialy when you miss half of whats happening in game.
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What also looks really bad is that MA didn’t ban everyone who was shooting the same mobs at the same time. Only selected accounts were locked. Either everyone was “exploiting”, or no one was. Selective punishment makes no sense.
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The idea of “correcting the loot” is also questionable. If the loot was bugged, how exactly is MA planning to determine what the “proper” loot should have been? And will they compensate players for the time their accounts are locked?
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From a fairness and legal standpoint, this is a terrible look. MA releases a game with bugs, and then punishes players for the fact that those bugs exist. Any court would throw out that logic immediately, because punishment requires intent, and here there is no evidence of intent at all and its extremaly hard to prove unless somone was telling all around about it.
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My main issue is this was FINE when it was for UBERS and big loots, but now that it’s smaller mobs they block people?
Clearly you can see how MA views its playerbase. Ubers can do anything and poorer players can get banned.
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Ok- can anybody explain to me what is going on on this topic?
See toggles post mortimer
This is all on MA they need to get it together and fix their game..
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I imagine most just saw a lot of globals happening then showed up. I guess who the first ones there might be more sus I guess.
Imagine this scenario
you’re out hunting, suddenly, a mob starts globaling like crazy.
You go there, and you also global. A lot. More than usual.
Weird. But there was a wave event earlier that day, maybe it is connected somehow. A dev even said so in local chat. Amazing!
Anyway, you keep hunting for an hour and make some profit, first time in a long time.
You wake up the next morning. Your account has been locked.
Why was it locked? You had good loot the day before - you did nothing but hunt the mob that was spamming globals. Conclusion; you take part of GOOD LOOT you get LOCKED. lmao
Oh yeah, and only 5 out of the 40 people got locked because Entropia.
Devs, seriously, pull yourselfs together. This shit is ridiculous.
There has been countless of happy hours around the game, and now you start locking people for it?
Are you saying these 5 people “caused” the happy hour? Or was this your own system fucking itself over? Nah, that surely can’t happen, with all of this spaghetti code, not even the code knows what to do.
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The last two happy hours made me quit the game for two years, maybe it’s time again. 1,5 months of playing was enough this time 
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i bet 5 ped on ban for players abduction and just wrong assumption on Nusul
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on a quick Math based on @Aqua Frost Star Today/Yesterday`s globals from Tracker = 5.4k loot on nusul, considering globals/hofs are not reflecting the actual damage size prob just 1/3 of whats the actual loot … I can say there is easy +10-15k Ped looted by 1 player.
Analysing the Entropialife tracker → there was prob what ? 35-40 players ? (EASY)
35-40 players [COLOR=rgb(247, 218, 100)]X 15k peds each = 600k ?
Not bad i would say.
But coming back to the reality, All i can see Arkadia Devs have pushed some buttons, to make some flames (hofs,globals) on chat with their Spawning EVENT (Orathans) and they forgot to turn off the loot after.
on the other hand, If i`m out hunting whatever and i see i have a GOOD RUN. I Belive its time for me to get back what ive lost over the time, so OFC i will still kill whatever.
I dont find it an ABUSE of the player hunting whatever they are hunting. (UNLESS they have done something wrong, using exploits, bugs, cheating, scamming other players whatever)
(UPDATED: first i wrote 15-20 Players but apparently there was +40)
anyone remember the recent mining strong box fiesta 
i mean all the ppl who opened those boxes just got their tt back. no one is forcing you to take those z30 to z160 for anything more than 10 ped each. how that workout for all those ppl?
imho if ur out there playing the game as intended ur playing the game period… thats not an exploit… thats not ToS abuse… im sry but, this isnt true… Sure you can say “if its to good to be true it probably isnt” but, lets be real if u just shooting and the things are popping im sry but, thats on MA not you the player… Same thing with the strongbox thing before if ur paying to open boxes ur paying to open boxes… its not like ur typing left, right, left, all 3, select start then opening XD its not abuse if all ur doing is playing the game… im sure many ppl will disagree… but, where do you draw the line then? 110% returns for the day should i stop cuz maybe its over paying me my losses? 120%? 150%? at what point do i stop? 1 global in a day 5? 10? 15? cuz this isnt just about globals…sure this time it was but, if ur getting crazy loot return how are you suppose to know?..The line starts getting very fuzzy if u keep getting pushed over it…
Lets push it further most ppl dont even know when events even happen because theyre posted in so, many different places and isnt consistent… I mean who knew there was a “boss mob event” today? I dont see it on Arkadia forum… I dont see it on Caly forum… where else am i suppose to look?.. was it a “happy hour” to stir up fun and excitement to bring players over to this abandoned Planet?.. how are we suppose to know if we cant find the fcking events?..
Ill be the first to say the players banned dont bother me one bit cuz i barely know any of them… but, lets be real… the ppl that benefit most the time are the ones with the knowing of when events like this happen and none of us do… So, for their sake how do they know this isnt another one of those events?.. I mean on NI Dev teams exit they gave away some serious amount of Deeds and more… and who knew about it? XD…
Ask urself this if ur against this idea at what point will you join in on an event that you’re losing out on because you didnt know then the event is over…
I mean how many of you knew about the Argonaut claw upgrades until it was pretty much already almost done XD
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