If i hire a fapper wich is a very rare thing for me i take the decay + mu on mod fap for 1h as example and look into how much heal/pec i got. With that as guideline i break down how much i want to pay for ek 2350/2600 or adj fap service each hour and usually try to be somewhat more eco to my advantage.
If someone work for decay + tip i do tip a few peds /h If the person complain i will gladly take another medic with me who dosn’t or have exact ideas about how much he want for his service. I always honor agreements made before i start hunting but if someone says decay + tip and get 3 - 5 ped tip for 1 hour he shouldn’t complain and just get the balls to say he want decay +10 ped each hour before he start using his fap on me.
Funny, because I just got an imp fapper yesterday and afterward I asked my healer friend if the tip that I gave the imp fapper was good or not. That person said it was great.
My “rules” for tips are basically if MA pays, then I do. I will still give some tip - but if loot is awful or somehow you did a crap job I’ll just round up or give like 1ped etc.. If someone doesn’t say they add ME or other randoms to the price up front, then I don’t expect to cover it. The even smallest tip I give should cover that and that is part of the point of it.
Now a lot of what I said is different if you have someone heal you for multiple hours straight. Then the ME use could be a lot more - and really you are tipping for the time commitment someone gave.
It is really a no-no to complain about a tip to the customer. At least in this game you can just refuse future service, which it sounds like you fapper did.
I fap sommmetimes - so since it’s not a main source of activity or income I’m more casual with it. I dont’ charge ME unless maybe it gets excessive (My thought is I TP all the time all over the game - why charge you for it all of a sudden?) I also try and avoid charging MU for (L) faps. I own the item - and chances are I won’t be using the whole thing on you - if you tip me some that should cover close enough to MU.
Takeaway: Tip your fappers! Fappers - be polite, say what you want upfront.
Thanks for bringing it up Joda -I always wondered with imp/mod fappers how they are doing with the hour charge cause I don’t know decay and I roughly know the value of the item. Like is 50p/hr solid and enough?
Well that is really not the way to go. Asking for decay + tip and then quit when 5ped/h is to less.
And actually MiniM pays good even on bad loot!!
If hunters gonna start pay to less tip on that system the full time healers gonna switch to ped/h again anyway and ok. Maybe the better way if with decay + tip neither the hunter nor the fapper is happy. Sad about that because I prefere the decay + tip system, both as hunter and fapper. And both with wide range of tip amount.
Modfap is 1pec/click and has 30/uses per min. This equals to 18ped if fapping constantly and that is not the case so mostly 15ped or so max and that’s 45ped/h in the pocket of the healer.
Impfap is 2pec/click and has 29/uses per min. This equals to 34,8ped if fapping constalty but most likely it’s never above 30 ped giving the healer roughly 20ped/h in the pocket.
In some countries like USA, it’s customary to pay tip pretty much everywhere; but in other countries (like Sweden) you only tip if you really want (especially nowdays when “noone” has cash); and since this is a game with people from different countries, it’s best to be perfectly clear what you do expect.
I try to tip if I have had good loot, but if loot at end of hunt just covers fapping cost itself then I can’t pay any tip at all.
If a fapper wants to get paid for mind essence or oil it’s fine with me, but don’t call it “tip” - it can lead to misunderstandings. And if fapper wants Money because of a huge investment, for instance an hourly fee or just some contribution it’s best to say it out clearly.
For me the fapper is providing a service so I always tip more than the amount of decay. 5-10 ped depending on my profit. I like to share if we get global. My buddies tip well too so fapper usually comes out with over 10 ped tip.
I did try fapping for players twice. One time I got paid nothing - no decay and no tip, second and last time, I used the player’s tool as requested so I got paid nothing on that. Only the decay on my tool once the player’s tool was dry and a 1.80 tip. SO, if I want to level up my paramedic, I go to Neas and heal for free - even there I have received bigger, unsolicited tips.
But I do think is a matter of culture - I live in the touristic part of the US so I am used to giving big tips.
I bought that mod2600 for 2 reasons: have a great eco and huge heal fap for myself. But for that case adj hedoc + adj reg. chip would probably have been better. But reason 2: I like to heal. So I decided to go for mod2600 to be able to get more healing jobs then with my “normal” fap. So as I said before I not heal for the PEDs. But still I don’t want to have the feeling to “work” there for free. So just a small tip (and I mean tip here like it was meant to be → so no fix amount) as ty for my time and service there. But I can’t say before the hunt how much I want, or at least I don’t want to. People I heal more often I always tell to not tip at all on bad loot but therefor don’t forget me on good runs. Just be part of the hunt/game.
So actually I feel bad if I ask for 5ped/h and the hunter goes for 4hrs with 50% return. If he cycled 6k Peds in that time another 20 won’t hurt. But if it was just 1500 or smth I don’t have to suck the rest out of him.
Thats why I do it for decay but still look at the tip. But not like I expect an amount there. But after 2h healing roundup a xx.79 to full might be a bit…frustrating. Actually if healing Joda or MiniM (name those because both here ) its pretty relaxed and I don’t expect much for my “work” there. But if I heal 2h team with no good organization I rly would like to see some appreciation because it is not easy at all (unless I totally fail → then i expect nothing :P). But again, what should I say before the hunt for PED/h if I don’t know how it will be. The healing and the loot.
So after all this read and written I think Goni and aia (and some others i forgot) are right: If healers think like me about it and therefor heal for decay they should charge whole decay including ME and stuff and everything would be fine. When you’re not happy with the tip just don’t heal that hunter again in the future. If you do it for the money ask for ped/h.
And actually things become more easy if you heal the same pool of hunters and you know each others…expectations.
And to take the bow back to starting post: I think the fault of the fapper was to not calculate ME if it was that much. If he still think its to less just ask for a fix price next time and not that “was to less”. Or heal s1 else. There is no healing duty. The hunter then has to accept the higher price or look for s1 else. Easy.
Like I said, its a game, should be fun for both. If you only have fun while getting money an adj/m2350/m2600 is the wrong fap anyway. Guess you would earn more PEDs with S10 fapping and buying CLDs or trading with the money…
(sorry, again so much written → but still not sure about the “perfect solution”)
Because that option is completely useless. Then the fapper basically get paid by the hunters dps on average. The hunter is looking to increase his dps to REDUCE defensive cost not the other way around.
WTF are you talking about? If the guy had asked for decay+10ped i’m sure joda would have paid the price but he asked for decay+tip then cried when the tip wasn’t big enough.
The way I see it is if someone wants to be paid to do a job they should tell you upfront what they want to be paid. This tips stuff is BS, they’re just hoping they’ll get a big tip if you do well. If I gave a tip it would be based on how well they did their job regardless of whether I lost 2kped or hit 100k.
just have MA shut off the ability to heal other avatars with faps, and make it a fap yourself or die thing. That should fix the tipping problem fairly well.
) its pretty relaxed and I don’t expect much for my “work” there. But if I heal 2h team with no good organization I rly would like to see some appreciation because it is not easy at all (unless I totally fail → then i expect nothing :P). But again, what should I say before the hunt for PED/h if I don’t know how it will be. The healing and the loot.