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Makes me laugh seeing some of these posts about how AUD aren’t even worth 50 ped? I will take AUD over CLD any day of the week. Price drop currently is just because of quick flippers that purchased from webshop flooding the market now. I own 3600 and will keep raking in my daily payouts while CLD owners are let down week after week. What’s kind of funny is CLD haven’t paid shit lately and the price hasn’t really dropped much so sometimes things don’t make sense. Just my 2 cents.
u need more aud then 
Same thoughts here, but with no so many AUD 
I have a hard time to see how you can say it worth much more than 50? The average pay/day the last seven days are 2.4 pec (based on the numbers yesterday, have not checked today). And the average in december was much lower than that. If we assume the average is 2.4, that would mean 0.024ped*365=8,76ped/year. If I want a 20% ROI that would mean a value of 44ped. So… I would say we need at least an average around 2.5-3pec/day for at least a couple of month before I would say it’s worth more than 50ped.
LOL
Some are pleased with 5% or even less, as this is still better than a lot other RL investments offered by RL banks.
Even if you have to pay 5% withdraw fee to MA to cash it out, its still better than the 2% offered by my RL bank
20% LOL
The ones that are pleased 5% are idiots… Okey, I don’t say 20% is needed but at least over 10%. The deeds are way riskier than stocks, no one would be happy about a 5% return from stocks. Sure if it was a 100% secure return, 5% would be fine, but is not.
Reason that auds in particular have dropped recently is that someone with a Whirly sort of name has a lot he can sell very cheaply and he is doing just that.
… where are the 20% thing coming from, the yearly CLD ROI at current price is less then 11% at a 1770ped investment size.
AUDs paying 0.02per day would equal CLD’s return at 70ped per share. and right now it looks like 0.03 per day isent a half bad bet some days. Couple that with a massive advantage in terms of market cap seeing as they are much cheaper and you got yourself a higher price.
CLDs having a base of 1000ped is fiction, as soon as MA sold all of them it was fiction and if that is the metric you use to determine if its a good investment or not then there is no good deed investment at all, not CLD, AUD or CPDs.
I did not say the CLD was worth 1770 either at the current ROi… :silly2:
But it’s lot of risk in both.
Some of the risk you take if you buy them:
The risk of the deeds it self, we can’t know it he payout will increase or decrease. Look at the CLDs, the have gone down from the start.
The company risk of MA. You need MA alive and kicking if you want the peds converted to really money. MA could close down both the game and the company tomorrow, next year, but someday they will. Nothing last for ever. Let’s assume you are “happy” with 5% ROI, that means you need 20 years to even get the money back. It’s a big risk the game will not exist in 20 years.
For non-US players we take a currency risk. The USD is very strong at the moment, but it could easily go back to the value it had just two years ago, that could mean a value decrease with around 20% , or even more. Of cource it could also go the other way, an even stronger USD, but I don’t think so, because that would be hard for USA to handle.
So in combination a lot of risk, and risk means you should have a high return on your investment. If that means 15% or 20% is up to the investor to decide. But 5%? way too low…
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Tell that to the investors that lost nearly everything when the stock market crashed. I don’t know about you but my retirement accounts have been sucking the last year or 2. I don’t doubt we will see a rebound but I think investing money in a single stock and investing money in deeds the risk isn’t really much different in my opinion. I stick to mutual funds typically because I don’t like the volatility of stocks. If you look at CLD current price and AUD current price and look at both of their returns over the past few months then I think you can clearly draw a good picture that AUD is worth more than 50 ped. Look at how strong CLD price is holding even with a months worth of shitty payouts. Goes to show that this game has a lot of strong confident players/ investors in it.
But you can stop right here. No one asked if it’s worth it or not..the question is will they go up or down. And most will say that they will go up in value since:
The make a valuation of an asset it pretty fundamentally to be able to predict if the price will go up or down in the long run.
Its completely possible that the price will drop a lot. Don’t forget there are thousands more AUD than CLD and its completely possible that most of the people who have bought them, have bought them to resell, so until they have re-sold them, the price will go down.
true , i think will drop
Yes, more risk does equate to a need for higher return but i think your missing the point as to who is buying these deeds and why. Most people holding deeds of any kind are players looking to suppliment there ingame activities, this group of people are content with a much lower percent of return then a investor would need.
For a lot of people the risk is zero or very low risk
My example:
I held 100 cd’s which I mostly bought For 1000 peds each.
I have had plenty of income over the years which I withdrew from the game.
I sold most of my clds in december for 1950 each, I bought 2310 auds for 53 /56 ped , I withdrew the rest. Auds are Now worth a lot more than 53 peds. The peds that are spent on my stack of auds are for the most part pure profit, because the initial investment is already back in my pocket.
I am Now buying clds from the income from auds. And some compet ones for fun.
I agree on that, that was why I bought CLD when they come out, to finance some of my playtime. But that was one the price was 1000 ped and the payout was a higher, the return was around 25%. I would not do that with only 5% return, it would not be worth the risk.
The risk is zero? Seriously? No business is risk free. Can you guarantee MA will survive for ten more years? And you can’t know for sure the number of players will not decline both in EU and on Arkadia.
hehe about MA … they pay so slow .. when u extract peds from game ..!
Its zero risk if you were going to burn the money anyway, it appears that lots of people have money to burn here :laugh: