$200 with EPBP 1

Entropia Universe Professions Crafting
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Hello all,

I was interested in exploring what crafting was like so I bought an explosive projectiles blueprint 1 and some nanocubes. Just wanted to share my results for anyone curious about getting into crafting or passively interested. What I feel I’ve learned (or maybe just psyched myself into thinking): Where and when you craft matters.

I started at level 0 and there were a lot of failures/near successes especially before I was skilled up and maxed on the BP though I was getting components back which was helpful. Much more pure success after that point. I did always have a skill pill going, I used 2x 100% 10 hour, 2x 10% 10 hour, and a smattering o f 50% 1hour 30% 5hour etc. Ended at level 6 mech eng which felt rather low. I suspect skill gains are input-driven rather than action-driven and since you’re only spending .02 per craft, it yields very little skills. I imagine if I did the same experiment with epbp2 I’d gain more skills because higher input. Anyway, to the numbers!

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TH]TT Value[/TH]
[TH]Item[/TH]
[TH]Sell / Estimated Value MU[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2000 PED[/TD]
[TD]Nanocubes (purchase & used)[/TD]
[TD]COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86) PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1,168.25 PED[/TD]
[TD]Explosive Projectiles[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]1,190 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]338.39 PED[/TD]
[TD]Shrapnel[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]341 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]290.29 PED[/TD]
[TD]Metal Residue[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]294 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.42 PED[/TD]
[TD]EP Recycle 1 Blueprint (42 clicks)[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]235 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]0.16 PED[/TD]
[TD]EP Recycle 1 Blueprint (16 clicks)[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]90 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]25.35 PED[/TD]
[TD]Welding Wire Blueprint (2,535 clicks)[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]27 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]Fees[/TD]
[TD]COLOR=rgb(235, 107, 86) PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]Net Profit[/TD]
[TD][COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)]148.22 PED[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

I left out the literal hundreds of BPs that dropped, basic filters, basic screws, 236518973613 basic bearings bp. Will likely just recycle most, but if you’re interested you can check out my BP thread here: https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?threads/cheap-starter-blueprints-also-ep-1-recycle-1-welding-wire.305676/

Not sure if I’m lucky or my BP is lucky or my avatar was born to craft or if this is expected. Just sharing results! Cheers

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It is in line with why I like EP1. Easier to get to large number averages on such a small spend.

The skills are low; this can be offset a little with supplies for DSEC, they absolutely cannot get enough explosives according to Tobie, with an additional 75 PEC engineering every day.

It comes down to preference, I think. Rate of spend versus rate of change. From my small experience, your results are quite typical, or average. The EP Recycles can be a lot like Daily Token Bonus missions. Long streaks of none, or rapid fire 3 in a day.

If you decide you like small spend cycling on the Construction Machine, may I suggest Muscle Compound B? ?

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It total waste to use skill pills on ep1.
Overall skill gains at crafting is a lot slower than gains u get on hunting (for example).
And with ep1, you only do 0.02/click, so really not worth to use skill pills.
Overall EP1 is a bit profitable in long term with recycle bps sold, but it seems you were lucky to get 58x recycles on this cycle.

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repeat and see what happens? coul djust be lucky day. thanks for sharing every interesting.

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I agree with him, especially since EP Recycle 1 Blueprint (42 clicks) is pretty much a rare thing to occur

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So 1 vote for average/typical and 3 for ‘lucky’ interesting! What’s funny is in my 30 levels worth of hunting, never had a positive return that high. But I suppose that’s hunting too high and cutting losses early

Good note on the pills Vill - that’s a live and learn situation for me. Was mostly trying to rush to be L5 for max success chance

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For reference I’ve done 10k ped of ep1 and got 1x 9 clicks of ep1 recycle.
I’ve also done 200 ped of ep2 and got like 23? clicks of ep2 recycle.

Follow the wave or whatever.

It is a small profit, depending on ep prices, how much you paying for nanotube and metal res/recycle bps.

Most bps useless, BUT you can get lucky and sell the less common looted ones for 1 ped on auction(.54p profit or whatever)

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The fact that it was a Lucky Run is pretty obvious

  1. success of a BP in MA lingo is “NOT FAILURE” so success is just NOT FAILURE
  2. in this SUCCESS event (with your zero skill and even with max QR it is not 5% fail, more likey 8 to 10%
  3. CRAFT is 1019/2010 = 59% and usual statistics over about 1m ped i crafted on max QR is 42.50$ confirmed by other crafters
    so yes, you had a 14% lucky run. on just 2000 (yes 2000 click is just 2 hours) i consider like 1 ped welding wire, 10 useless BP (most bearings) and 4 to 8 recycle (EP1 loots recycle 1 and recycle 3)
  4. manufacturing of skills is FOR SURE PED Decay base. 2000 ped TT input (BP have no decay) manufacture 1% of green lines or 20 ped TT Skills, if you started from scratch it can be material but at 40 mechanical your skill bar barely moves.
    if you do that craft on Monria (500 success) or on Toulan (1000 click) mission bonus of 0.7ish PED in specialized rare craft skills is importnat even at higher levels
    you will soon experience worse return to stabilize around 98% TT Return as per 2017 MA Statements.

NOW THE NUMBER CRUNCHING PART
(sorry fellow clickers fot this explanation of a “trick of the trade”
i will never reverse engineer the complex BPs.

The real point on EP is made by MU in and MU out

nanos are 101% just like residues, EP 102 to 103
103% on 42% of craft = 1.26%
101% on (98-42) on residue = 0.56%
you r loss is 1% on nanocubes used
so your PRE TAX profit is (1.26+0.56-1) = 0.82%
THEN YOU MUST APPLY ACTIVITY TAX (as per 2017 MA statement it is 2% in the middle run
so you must expect to LOOSE 1.18% crafting ep1 at actual market prices
on the other hand you gain 1% skills with about 700% markup so if you account for the skills EP1 crafting is 6% profit

bonus Recycle are in my experience about 1.5% of the TT as MU value that makes Ep1 craft free skilling in the long run

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I clicked a lot of EP1 and other BPs for years. It’s obvious to me that yours was a lucky run, it’ll even out over time. There’s still a chance for small profit tho.

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