Why Bother?

Diary of a new player.

I downloaded the game last night and jumped right in. I read up on depositing, and figured that I would try the game before I started committing money to it. Most MMOGs give you a 10- or 30-day trial period before you have to fork out cash, so that’s pretty much become standard.

I learned the controls, and looked around for the tutorial. There isn’t any. I found four information booths, and approached them, hoping to learn how to play the game, but they were universally unhelpful. I searched a few websites for a newbie guide and found nothing. Eventually I saw a forum post telling me to head west and seek a mentor who would answer my questions and help me get started.

I found people at Port Atlantis. I asked around a little, but nobody would mentor me or answer my questions. I ran north and found a mob. I clicked on it, and started to glow. It killed me.

I asked around for a mentor at Atlantis again. A player named Vargas gave me a broken axe to repair, told me I should “sweat” mobs, and gave me the coordinates for Camp Phoenix. I started running.

I died four times trying to reach Camp Phoenix. If I stray too close to a mob while running, it locks on and chases me until it inevitably catches me and I die. No matter which direction I ran, about halfway to Phoenix, my radar would simply fill up with red dots in every direction, and I would be forced to run too close to a mob that would eventually kill me. On my fourth death, I respawned at a place called “Billy’s Spaceship Afterworld,” and was able to make the (much shorter) run to Phoenix from there.

Once at Camp Phoenix, I figured out the logistics of sweating. I stood around and waited for someone to pull a mob in, then started sweating it. There were two or three players griefing, killing all the mobs we were sweating and calling everyone noobs. One was in a soc called “The Sweathogs” so I can only assume he does this kind of thing for kicks on a regular basis. Someone here offered to be my mentor. I accepted. He gave me another axe, then said “more if you don’t kick me” and disappeared into the teleporter. He would not answer any of my messages, and I never saw him again. I sold the second axe for .5 PED.

No matter. After a few hours of work (and I do mean work… hair-wrenching, nail-biting, “why does my sweat gathering fail 90% of the time” work), I gathered 100 units of sweat. I looked around online to see how much sweat sells for. After doing some calculation, I determined I had about 3 PED worth of sweat, and repairing my axe would cost 6.09. Then I read a post on this forum from someone who repaired his own axe and tried hunting, and found it to be a fantastic waste of time and money at this level. So even if I sell this sweat, I’m not sure what I would do with the money if I can’t use it to hunt.

We’ve reached the present. I’m sitting in Camp Phoenix. When a mob is pulled in, either the puller gets it stuck and we can’t sweat it, or it aggros some new player and he runs off into the horizon to avoid death, or a griefer walks up and whacks it to death before we can drain it. When I do get a chance to sweat a little, my attempts fail about 80% of the time. Someone is spamming chat begging for PED and free items, and five different people are spamming selling the sweat they’re harvesting. I’m still a little short of halfway to repairing the axe that will let me pointlessly hunt for a few minutes before it breaks again. I have no other items, and I don’t know where else on the continent I can go to do anything different from what I’m doing right now.

So this situation begs the question, Now what?

Somehow, I doubt I’m getting an accurate picture of how the game really works. Do I have to deposit to see the real Project Entropia? Is there no way to enjoy this game in the slightest before you drop cash on it? Are there any newbie resources available that start from scratch, explaining what the buttons do, how to make my first few PED, and what to do once I have them?

Open up your " project entropia" folder where you installed it and find a file named : " PE Guide.pdf ".
This will give you a first insight of the game.

People are people…here and irl. Some are assholes and some are nice. I can asure you that the nice ones dominate PE. Weather or not you give it some time and find them is your deal :wink: .

Good luck and enjoy !

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I would say thats a fair description of what its like starting out in this game.

I would hate to be a new guy now with the mob spawn like it is now. It used to be much easier to get from place to place before.

It is hard work trying to make it in this game without depositing. I know people that have done really well trading… but they dont waste their money hunting.

:eek: … :wise: for guide try the button in the lower left that says PE guide …dont belive all u hear killing stuff with your axe and sweating is the way to go oh and btw forget all u know about games this is just another liniar do this to become rich mmorpg ull have to struggle hard to get on top and even harder to stay there oh and most players pay to play just like any mmorpg so ull prolly have to spend 10$ a months to keep it fun anyways

There are alot of good people in this forum who will help you. Ask any questions you might have. Feel free to message me and I’ll try to answer them. Maybe I can help you out in-game sometime, time-zone permitting. :slight_smile:

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Humna,

 I will stop by Pheonix tonight and try to answer some of your questions.  I usually hang out there when i am broke to help noobs out.  Look for me there.  Hopefully i will see you.  If not PM me here and we can meet in game at some time.  

 I would hate to see a new player turned off to the game before they even start.  Also, if you look at the login screen there is some VERY basic help there.

See you soon

Suicide

My advice would be to get away from the n00bs. Get out and find the real ppl of this game. I am sure with some searching you can find yourself a very good mentor.

The game should not be like you have described it. Please don’t give up :slight_smile:

DD
:evilking:

Send me a pm and tell me what time you are ingame, i’ll come and help you out and get you started :slight_smile:

7 views, 6 encouraging replies. Ok, you’ve saved me from abject disgust :laugh: I’ll have a look at the PE guide and see what I can dig up.

I’d like to try out hunting and mining to see what they’re like. I’m not looking to make millions of PEDs, but I’d like to get to a point where I’m somewhat self-sufficient and not constantly bleeding cash as I hunt and/or mine. Is that a feasible goal without depositing? Or will it require a hundred hours of sweatfarming before I can amass the capital needed to buy supplies?

Like I said, I’m interested in trying out the game before I spend cash on it. If the game is designed in such a way that you can’t even accomplish simple grinding without feeding the deposit machine, then I’m not sure PE is the right game for me.

[QUOTE=Devil Doll]
My advice would be to get away from the n00bs. Get out and find the real ppl of this game. I am sure with some searching you can find yourself a very good mentor.

The game should not be like you have described it. Please don’t give up :slight_smile:

DD
:evilking:
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This is excellent advice Humna as I advise most newbs I help to do the same. The longer you flock with other newbs,the longer it takes to get acclimated. As you can see there are alot of others here willing to help you out,so seek them out if you can.

PM me if you want help from me too!

[QUOTE=Humna]
7 views, 6 encouraging replies. Ok, you’ve saved me from abject disgust :laugh: I’ll have a look at the PE guide and see what I can dig up.

I’d like to try out hunting and mining to see what they’re like. I’m not looking to make millions of PEDs, but I’d like to get to a point where I’m somewhat self-sufficient and not constantly bleeding cash as I hunt and/or mine. Is that a feasible goal without depositing? Or will it require a hundred hours of sweatfarming before I can amass the capital needed to buy supplies?

Like I said, I’m interested in trying out the game before I spend cash on it. If the game is designed in such a way that you can’t even accomplish simple grinding without feeding the deposit machine, then I’m not sure PE is the right game for me.
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Honestly, never assume that you will be self suffecient at any point. A lot of people are, so if your are dont call BS. I know it CAN be done. But 99% of the people in my soc STILL deposit, sometimes its a few weeks or months between. But to get to the point where you never deposit again, is most likely not going to happen, in the near and middle future anyway.

At any rate, knowing that, i think you will find the game fun and worth depositing once you get off on the right foot. If you are interested in mining i would suggest getting some enmatter probes and enmatter mining gear and head out. I would suggest at least 100 probes (50 ped) as only having a few probes will probably be pretty low chance to hit anything worthwhile.

If you want to get the most outta the game, collect TPs and sweat for nothing. Talk to others and see what you think. Until you get some ped in your CC, you wont have the most fun…

Suicide

I haven’t been playing much (at all) recently, and my avatar’s got about 400 PEDs that I’ve got no use for. I’ll drop by Phoenix a few times tonight if I think of it and we can go hunting or something. Bill’s on me. :wink:

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Thanks everyone! I’m in-game right now, yet again someone is hunting at Phoenix, proclaiming that he makes 1 PED per kill so he’s not going to stop. Get me outta here! :laugh:

welcome to PE Humna, and even better that u found this EF forum… just give it a lil time, and study, gl

I hate people that kill stuff at CP. This one really funny tie a persono kept killing the mobs and everyone surrounded him and trapped him so he couldnt move. It was so funny. I might drop buy and tank some mobs to lvl my Medic Skill.

you dont give up :stuck_out_tongue:

the tricky part is never to get broke ..so if u reach a certain limit

..stop doing fun stuff .P

well GL out there ..and getting all tps is a good goal as a NUBA .P

there lots of stuff to read on this forum and on EP so check it out .

Hunting with axes is probably (in my opinion) the easiest way to start hunting and about wasting money that depends only in the luck
from what i heard the axe 1x0 is one of the most economical weapons on the game (if i’m wrong please someone correct me) but you must only hunt mobs good for you level so you should start hunting exaurosaur and daikibas, fort troy is a good place to hunt them since you can finds lots near the city in all directions but more to the W - NW
Mining can be quite profitable if you get the hang of it but you need to deposit to try it since you must go on a mining run with more than 20 bombs at least and each bomb cost 1 ped

[QUOTE=Humna]

Somehow, I doubt I’m getting an accurate picture of how the game really works. Do I have to deposit to see the real Project Entropia? Is there no way to enjoy this game in the slightest before you drop cash on it? Are there any newbie resources available that start from scratch, explaining what the buttons do, how to make my first few PED, and what to do once I have them?
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You’re right. PE isnt fun without money. And money you will most likely have to despot unless you become a gifted trader. Or loot an uber item from a noob mob… this happens, to the communitys overwhelming joy. I deposited on my 2nd or 3rd day. PE took a whole new turn and Im still here, more than 1.5 years later, and I still love it.

What’s 10$? nothing… less than 2 beers at a bar in norway…
Me and my girlfriend are up at atleast 2000beers deposited…

wow what a story! :eek:

anyways, like other have said, dont giv up, and i would recommend putting in like $10 or $20 to get a feel for the game… also, search around on these forums for advice and help on what to do and how to do some things. :wink:

I like you, you are different from alot of the drags around here, some new blood is always good, guide yourself beyond, cause that’s what i am doing and its working good for me so far, you will not become uber right away if that is your goal, it takes money to make money, at first when hunting you may lose more then you make but with time, patience, and experience you will start to rake in peds i believe, once you learn how to hunt efficiently…

Happiness comes from within… :smiley:

And may the loot be with you… :silly2: