When your average mid tier player tries to do redulite - It goes pretty bad !

[Supajosh]

@ZPF

“No personal loot” = covfefe. Nobody knows what it means. They just said it to shut down the conspiracy posts.
We already know loot size is based on your decay. How is this not “personal”? :unsure:

Well when you put it like that ?

[morey]

400k cycled - 97.49% → 6 dmg enh, beta amp → Mayhem Foe
I switched between mayhem 4-8.

Lowest point was about 91% tt for 80k cycled in a low swing.

Used x1k mostly last year, the swings were just larger. ended at 96.5% with 1.0 after millions cycled.

[robber]

Just dont go and shoot punnies after… as last thing u want is a multi kickback on a hp 100 mob…

[Angela_Draniie_Cloud]

Oh you’re gonna hate my run

[Naomi]

@Supajosh

[I]Total spend [SIZE=4] 127,219 PED[/SIZE]
[COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)][SIZE=4]Total Loss -14,555 PED [/SIZE]
[COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][SIZE=4]Return % 88.56 %[/SIZE]

[COLOR=rgb(255, 255, 255)][SIZE=4]( The above does exclude any MU) [/SIZE][/I]

With your setup, I calculated you should expect a tt return of 91-92%.

So yes your returns are a bit on the low side, but they aren’t off that far. It happens. Next time you might be 94% and that would equal it out.

[morey]

@Naomi

With your setup, I calculated you should expect a tt return of 91-92%.

So yes your returns are a bit on the low side, but they aren’t off that far. It happens. Next time you might be 94% and that would equal it out.

No this setup isn’t that bad. I ran T9 R150 for awhile at 50 something % eff with lv 25ish looter. Ended up 93.5%

he should be getting 95%+ long run.

[Angela_Draniie_Cloud]

Okay finished. Ended 105.21931% tt reutnr, 1.47338244 Ped per point.

[Naomi]

@morey

No this setup isn’t that bad. I ran T9 R150 for awhile at 50 something % eff with lv 25ish looter. Ended up 93.5%

he should be getting 95%+ long run.

Apparently you guessed his expected returns based upon your own returns. Your own returns are possible a too small sample to be representative, as are his.
It’s probably better to base your estimates on math rather then on guesses.

[AndrewViperAng]

@Orion

I ran full 100.000 points Redulite mostly in Cat 6 with M83 Predator, all unamped, all unenhanced, just scope and laser sights.
No markup invested on my side, only 100% TT repair costs.

1.702 Easter boxes looted
Maybe ~500 Output amps for 200PED TT looted
2 or 3 Mayhem armor parts (L) for ~500 PED looted
I didn’t count the tokens, maybe around the same like you

TT wise I am a little more than 1k down in the red zone.

I sold the bunny for 500 PEDs.
Including Markup for boxes I am pretty much in the green zone again.

I am really surprised to know “all” the players here lost only 12% on ammo cost and decay. many others only got back 60% of the total spending. Thats normal to me, else where did MA get all the profits from, right? Cheers~ spend within your limits and invest wisely , inputs must be greater than output have a wonderful tuesday

[Markopolo]

Cryogenic atack nanochip 8 (T5) +Delta amp (L)
100k Redulite 03/04/05/06 instances more in 04
50k points shoot with enchanchers, then I realized that it is not beneficial at all all my profit going to enchanchers
50k points shoot without enchancers
Globals: 304
Best global: 616
Boxes: 1407
Tokens: 8807
Rare tokens: 0 , one rare open in boxes
Items: ESI no one, two (L) parts of mayhem armor + (L) sword, tt food

• 8.8k peds ~

[SSN]

@Angela Draniie Cloud

Okay finished. Ended 105.21931% tt reutnr, 1.47338244 Ped per point.

Lets swap my BC30 for your ASG, i have 92.90%

[slither]

I did ~5kped in cat 7 without a global, I think that’s the longest I’ve ever done with no global - shit happens.

[AndrewViperAng]

@Hego Damask

No, mayhem results are no different than any other mob result, however, most of us not really hunting such high HP mobs out of mayhems, so higher HP mobs with their higher volatility can make you think their result might be worse if you are in a lower return period like this.

Between last august and november, no matter where i was hunting, what mob, what efficiency, what dps, my result was around 93% for 430k cycle, i was assuming i have a low period, once will end and return will balancing out itself.
After that period the MM was above 97% return, while EM currently above 98% now, i assume this is a high period for me.

Not any of it will last forever, but sometimes 130k is not even close to balancing out something, while at other cases half of it will be enough.

i totally agree on the above, but that is considering the player is recycling peds everyday at the same amount(or higher amount). Not many players can keep on injecting USD to see a better loot return cycle. We must accept the fact that MA wont be giving USD to players, and base on that fact (when u accept this fact), you will find ways of getting new source of income without depositing, this way you can enjoy the game on the long run I love this game to the MAX~

[AndrewViperAng]

@slither

I did ~5kped in cat 7 without a global, I think that’s the longest I’ve ever done with no global - shit happens.

Yes bro, many other players told me they only got back 50-60% loot returns on the later stages of Easter Mayhem. I guess that has to do with the speed of recycling your peds. For me i recycled 4k peds of ammo on first day mayhem redulite, got back 300peds profit on first day. Second day mayhem when i spent abt 8 hrs continous shooting (recycled 9k peds) and was losing abt 800peds on ammo, was abt to give up when i hit a 3.8k hof (9.5k mayhem points) and that’s the point i stop, cos i know if i dont stop, all this peds will go back to MA. We need to strike a balance between hunting (spending) and other activities (trading and investing give u income) , this will ensure u can have fun in the long run

[Markopolo]

@SSN

Judging by some players repports and logs, it look like there is not, loose can be abysmal.
Also no personnal pool, according to me, it mean gmblng.

When you see total noob hitting 4k5 and 1k5 where is personnal pool ?

@slither

I did ~5kped in cat 7 without a global, I think that’s the longest I’ve ever done with no global - shit happens.

thas is to one 5 hours?

[system]

Thats the useless wave based System

When you dont hunt while loot goes up ( you see that when the global chat gets spaaamed) “thats why dps impacts” most likely you get lower Returns then expected. Because you miss the " i call it return wave"

The rule of Large numbers shit does not apply here because of the so called dynamic, i dont get why people still stick to this …

I am a noob , dont know much just a theory ?

[Msturlese]

@AndrewViperAng

I am really surprised to know “all” the players here lost only 12% on ammo cost and decay. many others only got back 60% of the total spending. Thats normal to me, else where did MA get all the profits from, right? Cheers~ spend within your limits and invest wisely , inputs must be greater than output have a wonderful tuesday

i STRONGLY disagree.
any return under 93% is a sign that “something is wrong” if not limted to a small sample.
i would say that on 500k cycled it is rather normal to get 97+
and that still is a big TTloss. keep in mind that 1.5% is returned in skill TT value on average
60% wouls be totally absurd, i shot 1000 ped per hour, 60% would be a 40 dollar per hour shooting cost.
this is of course a whining statement that exasperate a bad return. 60% can happen in 200 ped ammo shot, not in 200.000 (or in 20.000)

[Angela_Draniie_Cloud]

@SSN

Lets swap my BC30 for your ASG, i have 92.90%

That was your mistake hunting eco

[Nanashana]

Yup,

520k points
~740k cycle
92,83% tt returns
87% eff and 65 looter.

Biggest loots: 2k, 700

20 days of pain.

[SSN]

@Nanashana

Yup,

520k points
~740k cycle
92,83% tt returns
87% eff and 65 looter.

Biggest loots: 2k, 700

20 days of pain.

I hope 290 USD per day was worth the entertainment