I’m not sure if anyone has ever had this happen but here goes…
for the past 6-8 weeks while I’ve been out and about something has happened on my screen which has made me stop and look. A kind of “flicker” - something you can’t quite see in the corner of your eye. after seeing it happen so much I found it was my ammo count that was “flickering”.
I thought nothing of it and have carried on, but tonight I was stood south of zeus chatting in the middle of nowhere, not shooting.
This time I happened to be looking at my ammo and i saw the ammo number reduce by 6 ammo. I hadn’t shot my gun for around 5 mins as I was chatting.
My first thought was lag, but 5 mins??? that can’t be right. The cynic in me says that MA are buggering about but of course there is no way i can prove this - and if they were, they aren’t going to admit it are they.
Well those times i have looked on my ammo i have been getting more ammo. Im only skilling atm but from what i have seen im getting back around 1 shot sometimes. I dont know if it has something to do with lagg or whatever but i have never lost ammo that way. Only gained or got back from something.
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Well those times i have looked on my ammo i have been getting more ammo. Im only skilling atm but from what i have seen im getting back around 1 shot sometimes. I dont know if it has something to do with lagg or whatever but i have never lost ammo that way. Only gained or got back from something.
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The ammo you get back is ammo you lost due to bug/lag when shooting and its nice that MA compensates it again, there was bad lag in VU 5.4 I think where I missed over 25% of all shots and no compensation what so ever :rolleyes:
how is it possible for them to implement a system like that???
I mean, how do they know if you were shooting at something or deliberately shooting in the opposite direction? Multiply that by the amount of players and surely it would slow the whole system down to a crawl??
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how is it possible for them to implement a system like that???
I mean, how do they know if you were shooting at something or deliberately shooting in the opposite direction? Multiply that by the amount of players and surely it would slow the whole system down to a crawl??
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That system has existed for over 1,5years.Just that it seemed to be turned off from VU 5.5 to 6.0
I remember when I was new and noticed I had 121 ammo which I dindt have when I logged out and almost cheered and cried of happiness until someone told me it was ammo I lost due to various issues
I don’t know if this is the same bug/lag thing but I have noticed it a couple times now.
I get down to say 4 med cells left but my gun uses 8 so i switch to pistol or blp until i can get more med cells.
Get to the sc but 10k ammo and i should have 10004 right?. Wrong I got 10000!!!
Where has the 4 gone .
I doubt its lag coz this has happened after I heve logged out and then back in the following day as well as an hour or so late after running out.
So where has my ammo gone and I have noticed this more than once now as well.
You notice it the most when skilling with a Mann MPH because of the rapid fire rate. Mostly for me around Troy. For some reason, the server that Troy is on is a long way (internet wise) from me.
I’ll be plinking along and notice some of the shots don’t do any damage at all. Sometimes for 4 or more shots wouldn’t get any damage at all. But the counter of ammo still decreased. What is happening is that the server never got the packet that I pulled the trigger. But my client says I did. Since the server thinks I just stood there for a few seconds (taking a beating). The true ammo count never decreased.
It’s a little (at the exact moment) frustrating, but is of little bother. Unless the mob kills you of course. :rolleyes:
After the client and server resinc values, the ammo count is corrected on the client side. You should always notice an increase in ammo (returned).
Where Rusty bought 10K more ammo to add to his existing 4 should have resulted in 10,004 ammo, is most likely a real bug.
That never happens to me because I use my remaining ammo to repurchase my new ammo pack. It is in the way I do my accounting for my profit or loss.
I put my new money (loot) and my remaining ammo in the right side of the terminal and put the new ammo needed in the left side. If I have to pay more then I generally know I have taken a loss. I usually don’t put the items in because I’m the unlucky sort that doesn’t usually get anything over animal skins. Those tend to account for decay. If I use an axe at anytime or fap or use my expensive armor, then I have to do a little more figuring for repair. I repair first and get the bill for the repair costs. Then I take that amount of money from the new stacks and put it back on the card after repair. Then do the normal P&L.
Wanda, I understand it would be very frustrating if that happened.
But it has never happened to me. Now why is that? Why does it happen to you and not to me? I always keep my ammo at a nice round number. And I have never noticed any discrepencey while I was not “in the woods” shooting at mobs.
I’ve never once had one single round of ammo go missing while I was just hanging out in town, trading, or whatever.
I have occurences where I can see my ammo count drop and I was not even shooting. I have seen it drop while buying it at the tt
Add also many other things that were there the night before you signed off and logged on the next day only to see your inventory is missing some items:
Case in Point: Had 2 Jester D1 when I signed off a few days ago. When I logged o n the next day they were not there.
Case in point: Bid on an item and paid 10 ped for it o nly to find it was not put into my inventory.
Case in point: Saw fruit lying on the ground and went to pick it up. Just as I reached down to get it , the item disappeared. No fruit
And this bug really BUGS me:
You have killed a mob(A big one at that) and you try to get the loot only to have another mob kill you who was not on your radar. Never know what that mob would have given you and to boot, you are transported to a terminal that is no where near where the nearest RT is.
Now I have noticed I am killing “Shadows”. Yep, that’s right “shadows”. Just black figures with no color. Must be another BUG huh!!!
i noticed som stack problem.
it happen som amo or any other think in stack ( pec , ped , hide …) can miss.like 1 litel stack ( 10 pec) is not add to the big stack corectly while server piling.but this is very rare.
often when we got stack problem its due to lag.
i have to say , lately , “loot” and “stack” server was laging a lot . we can call that “lag storm” , server freeze for 10 or 20 sec , then work again.this lag alowed me more than 1 time to kill a mobs that i should not becouse my amo should be allready removed.also , it hapen somtime server give back amo i spend for nothing due to lag ( like try kill mobs during lag storn).
more or less , i havent lost amo du to bug or lag in “stack” , but often due to " general server freeze and lag" that make me get killed , or try kill when its impossible (and waste amo), 2 or 3 loot windows that poop 10 min later while i am hunting something else (and dead)…
Heheheh so basically none of you actually have a clue, do you?
Lots of theories here… 5 minutes lag? No thanks
Ammo returning to compensate for misses? As Wanda said, no way that the servers could cope with a load like that. The servers actually have very little to do just now - they’d need 3x more servers just to deal with a “miss compensation”
It might have appeared in VU6, but I’m pretty damn sure it wasnt something MA planned
Ulti gains ammo regularly - and no, not 3 or 5 minutes after a hunt. We often stand chatting for long periods in Ithaca with friends - for an hour or two. Still her ammo count regularly increments - if she has a gun equipped the her ammo goes up by it’s burn amount
It’s just another PE bug folks. It’s no big deal - a few ammo here and there. Kinda like the “equal loot” in a team, where the loot divisor is cast off rather than given to any of the team (3 in a team, loot 2pec - nobody gets anything as 2 doesnt divide by 3)
wanda, yesterday was the first time i experienced the phenomenon you are stating, it included not only dissappearing ammo, but such severe server lag that at one point, as i was talking to someone, an atrox guardian killed me at about 130 metres. im not kidding. it wasnt like he was close on the radar and his image onscreen was lagging, or vice versa, or anything like that. he just killed me without even moving. ouch then when it showed the revival question, he was still at that distance.
there was another oddity, also… i was in the corinth ring after a LONG atrox hunt, and had used about 2k ammo, had about 300 left… figured id use it skilling on other players. well, i got down to 2 ammo (its a d1, so 2 ammo burn), fired the last shot, and then 20 ammo (which had dissappeared earlier that day, like you were saying) reappeared in my inv!! and i know it hadnt just split the quantity, because i had SEARCHED my inv right after the ammo-dissappearing for that exact possibility… and there was no 20 pack…
:mad: crazy stuff… grrrrrrrrr…
nothing you can do - length of time is affected by servers and internet connection size.
like knuckles said, its MA’s way of compensating, which they introduced around VU6.
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As Wanda said, no way that the servers could cope with a load like that. The servers actually have very little to do just now - they’d need 3x more servers just to deal with a “miss compensation”