the reality behind noob socs in LG?

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reality behind noob socs in LG?

hmm… a couple threads ago, i made a post of a conversation i had about a hoard of noobs armed with d1s/manns might being a slight annoyance to the uber socs… ok, not gonna happen, but since i did that, i realized i may well have stumbled onto something…

ok, n00bs theory…

i was told an ml-35 has a 1.6 reload. dont know if this is right, not too sure i care. i think it does 82 damage total… so lets say, for the sake of making my math easier, it does 90 dmg and reloads 1.5…

childs of baal, earth quakers, entropia order all ally… thats almost 600 people. lets say that the prep talks of their leaders were of a miraculous calibre, and during the course of the 90 min. lg, half of them log on for a significant period.

ok, so… the first one of these 3 socs get there, grab the land in question. remember that not all members of these are noobs… i talked to the leaders of some (the size 80-100 ones, mostly) and almostall could at least lesser tp. so its POSSIBLE they could get there first.

lets say someone with an ml-35 shows up. ok, he can kill 1 n00b in 1.5 seconds. lets say he has PERFECT aim, and kills one EVERY shot. going by that count, it takes 450 seconds to kill all of them. now, thats 7.5 minutes, unless im mistaken. now, you CAN run from the nearest tp to there in 7.5 minutes. so, if every single noob runs back after every time they die, you can hold out for 90 minutes no problem… the noobs will just be hit about once every five minutes anyway, so they wont get too bored of dying.

ok, now lets assume that half of cK shows up, in their attempts to spread the board. erm, nevermind, i dont know how many people that is… lets say FIVE cK’s show up (lol im an idiot :laugh:). thats 90 seconds it takes, if nobody misses (im still using the 1.5 figure, slap me)…so, throw in a few other socs to even it out bit, and its physically possible that a large n00b soc wind up with land.
then of course, consider the fact that although they might not be able to take on an uber soc, they can cause a considerable annoyance. lets say they last all of 10 seconds each. LOOOOL. that gives the noobs enough time to continue running back to the LA over and over again…
and unless ive not made myself clear, noone has to fire a single shot… so its not like im thinking of 500 nobs with d1s taking out warants one at a time…

:rofl:

ive actually already begun trying to put this in motion… talked to the leaders of a few of the top-15 largest… some of them seem genuinely interested, some of them wanted to be sure of collaboration from other socs first, some of them just gave me the brush-off. this might be something that happens.
so, if anyone would like to assist… pretty please? if nothing else, get some shits and giggles for 90 mins…

erm, if theres anything else, i guess ill edit this…
that is, on the offchance anyone bothers to reply…
and maybe, if this all goes through, ill get some rep (ingame and out) for having been the one with the smartass idea on how to get this done :smiley:

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IMO

you won’t manage to keep the area for more than 10 minutes

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[QUOTE=phrozenRa]
you won’t manage to keep the area for more than 10 minutes
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something wrong with my math, or are you just tryna get more efd? if you want to give input, elaborate…

..mb, this has as much to do with LG and societies as it does noobs. whyd you move it?

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There is always possibility in life… nothing is ever impossible :wink:
but- let’s imagine your above scenerio did indeed work out. Which soc would infact gain the land? Only one of them could claim it, thus being the only one to reap the rewards…

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oops, left that out :laugh:
the land would switch hands everytime all the soc members died–of course, one would know this when the land marker begins flashing and sirening… this would probably lead to noobs actually moving in order to NOT be pkd, making it (at least .0000001%) harder for ubers. certainly more annoying… :smiley:

not moved back. ok mb :wink:

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whoops, i accidentally posted the last post twice some how, this is the second ones edit. no idea how though :confused:

next time someone says something ill stick it here. please dont kill me mb!!!
:sniper::newbie:

RE-EDIT: whoops, its been so long since i read th thread, its grown another page… oh well, guess nothing useful goes here.
go ahead and shoot me mb…

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Maybe you should like go to sleep or something :rolleyes:

OK seriously, it could be possible BUT… Not all the members are online simultaneously. Also, its hard to keep up the servers with THAT much stress. :eek:

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It can work, but it will be for no real use would it?

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Let’s say the soc has 200 member.

50% are inactive, leaves them at 100 member.
50% have school/job etc.. 50 members left
50% don’t feel like LG’ing they rather go sweatgather. 25 members left
80% will die from mobs on their way to the claim. wich makes it a grand total of 5 players with no armor, fap, skills or HP to defend the claim.

This is why it will not work :wink:

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A human shield type effect. with say 25+ members in the inner circle and 100+ ppl around them all jumping and turning etc and this WOULD be possible.

No one has yet managed to organise this ever that i have seen.

If you gather that many ppl into one common goal, you have my respect

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[QUOTE=Zasz]
something wrong with my math, or are you just tryna get more efd? if you want to give input, elaborate…

..mb, this has as much to do with LG and societies as it does noobs. whyd you move it?
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you definately forgot to add revive killing to ur math… and many others

  • the fact that if one uber takes the stand, ur 600 noobs will have to go home
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[QUOTE=Prodiq]
Let’s say the soc has 200 member.
50% are inactive, leaves them at 100 member.
50% have school/job etc.. 50 members left
50% don’t feel like LG’ing they rather go sweatgather. 25 members left
80% will die from mobs on their way to the claim. wich makes it a grand total of 5 players with no armor, fap, skills or HP to defend the claim.
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you obviously didnt read the ENTIRE post… but thats ok, since itll probably be YOU with a few others taking out all my little noob-spawns… like i said, there would have to be multiple socs with many people… like, say, the top three, with the help of a couple more gracious mediocre socs…
[QUOTE=Kalashi]
No one has yet managed to organise this ever that i have seen.
If you gather that many ppl into one common goal, you have my respect
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lol kalashi… the way things turn out, i probably wont have earned your respect :smiley:
[QUOTE=phrozenRa]
you definately forgot to add … the fact that if one uber takes the stand, ur 600 noobs will have to go home
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i know… you have to have the leaders of all these major socs simultaneously tp to the predesignated LA… and hope that ONE of them gets there fast enough…
[QUOTE=PhOeNiX-47]
Maybe you should like go to sleep or something :rolleyes:
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thanks for the concern (sarcasm) i got almost 3 hours since i wrote this :smiley:
[QUOTE=PhOeNiX-47]
Also, its hard to keep up the servers with THAT much stress. :eek:
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harder then, maybe, to get shot?
and if it crashes, do the jailbreaks get to keep the land? LOL :smiley:

for all the rest of you who have faith in me (certainly more than i do myself) thank you…

edit btw, please dont take this as one of those --this thread is ended now-- posts… id like to hear many more responses :smiley:

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I have another theory …

with 300 armed jesters noobs trying to claim, problably the server blows up for good :smiley:

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[QUOTE=Zasz]
you obviously didnt read the ENTIRE post… but thats ok, since itll probably be YOU with a few others taking out all my little noob-spawns… like i said, there would have to be multiple socs with many people… like, say, the top three, with the help of a couple more gracious mediocre socs…
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You can apply the numbers yo a bigger number if you want. :slight_smile:

Forgot to add 80% don’t have a nearby TP and don’t want to bother getting it either. :wink:

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as you are defender you need:

  1. take the claim first , no way way that bunch of noob can take back an claim.
  2. be enought since the start to keep the claim while other coming ( mean all logon at same time).
    3)all need to know where is the claim , defend eatch other against mobs…
    4)be enought to flood the RTkiller
  3. be enought to flood claim killer.

i think full bunch of noob is no chance to get an claim.
but i am shure well organised 20 to 50 medium player can manage to keep one.
this is due only to the fact RT are near to claim.
nearest claim = better chance.

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never :slight_smile:

attackers need only to bring 10-20 big mobs with them and allow them to kill all these n00bs :slight_smile: and pbring some mobs beatween revieval and claim :slight_smile:

  • revieval killing helps a lot in this case :slight_smile:
    and one more thing - n00bs are very unorganized mostly - have no discipline and have their own ideas - as Prodiq explained - u have no chance to collect even 500 pplz :slight_smile: maximum is 100-200 if u are lucky. and dont forget one thing - all top socs have some allies too. and believe me - 5-10 top level players can kill 100-200 n00bs very very fast :slight_smile:
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What good would it do anyway? I can imagine the thoughts of the members of a 200 member soc. “Wohoo! What a great day, everyone hunted and mined, so I got 12 pec!”

I must agree that it’s a funny thought though :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=Koder_PT]
I have another theory …

with 300 armed jesters noobs trying to claim, problably the server blows up for good :smiley:
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LOL… maybe if they hit the claim first, theyd get it once MAhad the server up :smiley:

and no, guys, i really dont expect this to happen… and even if id really did happen, i couldnt care less, its just something to do ingame when im bored, broke, and have nothing to do other than harrass ubers :smiley:
so dont get so worked up over it :laugh:

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im not sure couple of hundred ppl with d1’s would do it, but i see no reason why 100+ppl with mid lvl weapons couldnt, as for unarmed noobs swarming the area, lol even if theyre not sucessful thatll be one hell of a funny ‘kill frenzy’ video for someone to make

whats there too lose but peds & thats gonna happen anyway lmao

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what the hell makes u think that the ubers wont be there like a day befo it starts to do this :handgun: and this :sniper: on living ppl and this :poke: on dead ppl and then this :banana::dance::banana: ???