The Mysteries of PE.

Ok I know alot has been said about the secrecy of MA.. the fact that they tell us little or nothing about the game. And a lot of people don’t like this.
:wise:
But I’m gonna be controversial and say I love this level of secrecy, its great!
I don’t want to know for sure if there is a loot pool, how hofs are determined,
how skills are affected by this that and the other. I don’t want to be spoonfed the answers I want to go into the field and find them for myself. I enjoy making mistakes (not too many :wink: ), and learning from them.

If they gave us all the answers there would be nothing to talk about here and ingame and in other forums.

I say MA keep the Mystery!

In the eye of MA we are all n00bs! and we should stay that way.

Vince

ps. Once I hang-up my rifle THEN I’d like to know how it worked!!!

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The big advantage of us not being given infomation by MA is and it has been said before is that it makes the community come together and collect infomation for themselfs and share it with other witch may be one of the reasons that PE has such a good community.

The one thing about PE that is dam near perfect is the community of players that play it, MA leave it alone lol

Im not at all agains the mystery and keeping things secret. What I am against though is when they say certain things as a fact and it obviously aint so.
Im not gonna bore you with exapamples. I think most players that have been around for a while can come up with something :wink:

I like some of the secrecy, but I still would like information on tools and stuff.
It has to be a happy medium. You don’t have to tell when I unlock stuff, but I would like to know if this is the best item for doing something.

I like the new stats they have on tools and stuff. I need to know that my skills do something. :smiley:

I like the community aspect of sharing information and working together. What I don’t like is secrecy in “out of game” information. I don’t like being told that I may have to wait another few weeks for the new VU to come out because it’s still in testing. then have it come out later that same day.

I also don’t like being told of things in development WAAAAAY before they are available, or never made available (ie-vehicles/mounts)

I really like things like the hangars, DNA fragments, etc.

:twocents:

I love it how MA keeps secerts.. Just lets thoes who pay attention to stuff get more then thoes who cant figure out what is going on.
Just more reward for thinking rather then just putting money in and clicking I think :wise:

While I agree that its good that the community have had to work together to find information, I still think that some level of transparency is required in order for MA to be fully trusted by the players. In them not providing the exact reload times or decay for equipment, it leaves room for them to make changes without advising us. Not saying they’ve done this, but it is possible.

Really it’s just no big secret. All vet players know the answer :slight_smile:

I do :slight_smile: do you ?

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[QUOTE=nicoledantrag]
Really it’s just no big secret. All vet players know the answer :slight_smile:

I do :slight_smile: do you ?
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I know only that I know nothing !

I like secrets too.

But while I dont want more information, I would love better quality in information. (Actually among my first posts in old official PE forums was about this.)

Meaning better informing about downtimes, failures, development issues etc non-game technical things.

And clear public guidelines what they will inform. (Like rules that VU is announced x days before it comes. If it doesnt come that day, only short notice will be placed on CL. After first planned day it can come any day it is deployable. etc)

The notion of knowing something is the reality of flirting. Claim you know something, and people will pay you attention.

Thats my pre-9am theory for the day :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=strakkan]
Im not at all agains the mystery and keeping things secret. What I am against though is when they say certain things as a fact and it obviously aint so.
Im not gonna bore you with exapamples. I think most players that have been around for a while can come up with something :wink:
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cant belive i actually agree with strakkan but i do :slight_smile:

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(Forty Two)

[QUOTE=Oije]
I know only that I know nothing !
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that, my friend, is the greatest knowledge one can achieve

[QUOTE=Vince Vaughn]
But I’m gonna be controversial and say I love this level of secrecy, its great!
I don’t want to know for sure if there is a loot pool, how hofs are determined,
how skills are affected by this that and the other. I don’t want to be spoonfed the answers I want to go into the field and find them for myself. I enjoy making mistakes (not too many :wink: ), and learning from them.
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Well since your so happy not knowing..

Come to my business and I’ll sell you some equipment, I wont give you the specs since you enjoy finding that out for yourself, I’ll sell you a rifle but I wont tell you the reload time and that repair cost is a bit high, since you enjoy finding that out yourself…etc…etc.

I love to part fools of their money…come on over..I’ll make you a deal…

Von

Well

Well, where would the fun be if you downloaded the game, got a manual where it said “This is how everything work”?
Figuring out how things work is a great part of what make it all fun for a lot of people.

Im pro-secrecy! :smiley: This game has a great community, lots of intelligent people. I dont think they´d stay so long if PE didnt have any challenge in it!
The community is extraordinary here. You all know that! People who ..eh..are not so gifted and immature tend to not make it here. They would have if it came with a manual.

So, yes. It makes the people come together, make charts and share information! :slight_smile: Ive always seen it as a huge plus.

i do like some of the secrecy, but there are things that i wish were out in open, like what loots what, i look at the loot charts, see something i wanna get, go kill 1000’s of them, lose all my money, and still dont get the item i wanted.

well, i cant really say i want that either, cause then it would ruin the fun of hunting different mobs.

arrrg, i have typed this next paragragh 50 times, and i cant think of a constructive way to put it, its got me that pissed off, then i realize what im mad at, so i had to break down and go grab a beer on a night i didnt really feel like drinking. anyways, here goes, sorries if i offend anyone, feel free to flame me, or let me know if im wrong, and i can forget about it.

first, i just hear most of what im about to say, from various people, people that seem to come back after not playing for 3 years, they say. but then they pull something out like “trousers”, i dont remember the exact name of the pants, but they said they were pregold, so untill told other wise, i guess i should believe. if you know noggin, he bought them, and i absolutley love them on him.

but i heard shadow armor, and bigger guns used to drop like crazy, along with my all time favorite item that i hope to loot one day, a mod fap, i know when i first started playin, about 10 months ago, people said they looted off of allos, so i hunted allos, non-stop, then they dont loot them anymore, and someone tells me that mod-faps havent looted for a very long time, but where did these ubers, like angel, ps, and all others, that i really respect alot, so no offence, but where did they get them? THEY LOOTED THEM, an option that isnt available to me as a noob, either is an impfap, or even adj fap, tho i did recently head an uber say aluri or kreltin loot adj faps, but havent heard anything else on it.

how did most of the ubers get the skills they have now? well, 10 months ago it was easy to skill, thats mostly how i got to the level i am now, hunting berries for 15 hours straight with a mann mph, but now i cant get skills off of esto providers for the life of me, so i moved to crafting a bit more, but you cant skill on filters anymore. so while some have 10k usd sitting at home to spend on a mod fap, or shooting at troxie guards to get skills, cause thats pretty much the only thing that really gives me any skills that i can actually kill, tho i try to avoid em, i dont have that kind of money.

it just really pisses me off that some of these arent available anymore, and there hasnt been anything to replace them, and there was never an announcment from MA saying something like “hey, if you want your mod fap, or shadow armor, you shoulda started playin 3 years ago” or an announcment from them saying “hey, we are about to totally crush the value of an axe, so sell the 300 ya got now”, and was there ever a “hey, we are going to stop looting items that have low decay, and massive powers” message out there? NO, i look at zaps, and i see the loot chart getting worse and worse every VU, best i can hope for is a fap-110, which i think is horrible, ill just stick to my 2600 and its decay. and as far as the mk II on the drones, i think i have given up. but 1 more thing, just to go over it again, and i know its been said too many times already, and the issue is probably dead, but it still pisses me off, was there ever a message, or sign from MA that said anything like “HEY, WE ARE GOING TO MASSIVELY SLOW DOWN THE SKILL GAINING LEVELS TOMARROW, SO SKILL UP TONIGHT” ? no, there wasnt, i found out about it when i went to log in, had the update, and read the pages, and each VU, i realize there is something taken away, or something added that costs more.

so while i have ranted, and have gone through a 6-pack now, watched a few episodes of season-3 of 24, im still pissed at this topic, i would love for the same options that were available, to be available to me, and other noobs to the game, or items added to replace them, right now, there isnt a decent fap that does over 42 heal, with a decent reload. as far as armor, i looted jag thighs from estos a week ago, but we all know how bad jag shows up onthe charts, so i just sold them. i want to know if a fap that can heal for 100 is even lootable anymore, probably not, which limits the number of people that can hunt huge mobs that i so badly want to hunt, oh, and if you mention the 2550 deluxe or whatever it is, that costs 1.8 ped each click, ah, hell, im not even gonna go there, lol.

i just think they should have left those choices up to the comunity, somehow, or communicated better with WHY it was being done.

i didnt start this game for the idea that i would make money, i pay to play games at an arcade, i pay for ps games, i paid for other pc games, im a gamer, its what i do when i get home from bartending and dealing with butts all day and night. but i didnt expect to have to pay 10k usd for 1 item in a game, if its available to anyone, or anyone has it, it should be lootable i think, and it kills me that not everyone can have one, because it would open up a wide door for lots of noobs like me to hunt mobs that i can actually gain decent skills on now days.

i think i pay enough in repairs on my armor and guns for MA to make a mod fap lootable again, when it should have never been taken away, and i think i have tt’d enough goblin and pixie parts for shadow armor to be looted again.

i apologize for the size, and rantings of this post, but this thread just pushed a button for me, im a regular reader here, but i dont post often at all, and i am very thankfull for all of the imformative threads that this site contains, some of the links i have gotten though here have helped me imensly (spell check)

http://www.mytwopecs.com/
http://www.cmce.se/PE/
http://www.pe-addict.com/
http://www.pe-trade.net/index.php?p=inc_calc1
http://loot.solja.net/

just to name a few, thanks if ya read, thanks if you said i was completly wrong, and had the wrong info, and thanks for understanding if ya actually think i was right in some sorta way.

oh, i dont plan on quitting P.E., i love the game, just wish it wasnt so costly

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I quite agree with deo altho I can see the beer in that post :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t like at all that kilogram of false ubers who skilled when everything was so easy. At least them could keep mouth shut instead of bragging here or there (I keep hearing/reading “You didn’t figured it out yet? lol”).

If I would have played when there were no storages so prices were really down.
If I would have played when dozens of mobs didn’t do damage and u could global on them.
If I would have played when mining deposits were nice aligned north-south east-west and u had to be a moron to not figure it out.
If I would have played when you could trap mobs.
If I would have played when I could actually loot angel or shaddow and years after laugh at n00bz who don’t have it.
If I wouldn’t be ashamed to make 20 avatars.

Don’t get me wrong. I like the game, I like also some mystery in it. What I don’t like is a bunch of people were VERY advantaged just for being in game from a long time. Just for the time.

[QUOTE=Kerham]
I quite agree with deo altho I can see the beer in that post :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t like at all that kilogram of false ubers who skilled when everything was so easy. At least them could keep mouth shut instead of bragging here or there (I keep hearing/reading “You didn’t figured it out yet? lol”).

If I would have played when there were no storages so prices were really down.
If I would have played when dozens of mobs didn’t do damage and u could global on them.
If I would have played when mining deposits were nice aligned north-south east-west and u had to be a moron to not figure it out.
If I would have played when you could trap mobs.
If I would have played when I could actually loot angel or shaddow and years after laugh at n00bz who don’t have it.
If I wouldn’t be ashamed to make 20 avatars.

Don’t get me wrong. I like the game, I like also some mystery in it. What I don’t like is a bunch of people were VERY advantaged just for being in game from a long time. Just for the time.
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This is such a typical myth :slight_smile:

hummhumm when was it ever easy to skill yourself uber? I mean, autoclicking is one thing -in ring in the old days. But that was pure money going out, not coming in (till later) so it was only those who could afford it from the first place that did that. And seriously, back then it took a shitload of money to ringskill and get get skills.. (btw, no I didnt have the money so I didnt do this..)

It was -not- easy skilling before the new skillsystem. Mann Mph/Jester and getting a mousewrist was the best way of gaining skills. And not to TALK about the slowdowns! PHEW! Those were AWFUL! Now you can just buy a ML and your 3k in no-time.

The only mobs I remember that didnt do any damage was the tantardions. And then you used a hellofalot time and efford and fapdecay to clear the place of tanillons who would come running from the other side of radar.

Oh and I still havent met one uber yet who´s laughed at me for not having angel. Btw whenever I say I wish I joined under coT or beta they reply that the game stinked and looked awful back then. Just as a sidenote :wink: