Svlad Mukke Cjelli has a total of 8000 global in entropy life on the hunt and gives him almost 3600-
and in 6 years it has never given me more than 1700 ahahha! LOL
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Use a weapon that consumes more ammo, you too can buy big globals…
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a globe is not a HOF) There are other multipliers
I understand your frustration; I have more then 80K PEDS in globals and have only one uber HoF of 1k lol.
I’ve always tried to play eco and cheap and I think that’s why I never pushed big multis.
As already mentioned, I really think it is related to how much PED you spend per time unit; if you manage to spend a lot of peds lets say per hour, in a decent sample of cycled PEDs, when that bigger multi comes, it’s heavier. This doesn’t mean you will lose less or win more (I believe you’ll lose more hence why I keep playing cheap).
Then, there seems to be those rare, lucky, random big multis that never hit unlucky people like us. Frustrating, but it’s how the game is, either cope with it or move one I would say. (I think they’re there to push you to keep cycling and distract you from the reality of how much you’re already paying to play).
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Next time move from kerbs and use a weapon that consume peds
also while you are at it, get a mentor that must teach you hofs doesnt count in how many years you play the game but in how much you spend /year to relevant mobs.
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I was on Thomas with 13 amps and didn’t get anything.
That’s a welcome back hof 
he’s been gone for 17 years.
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Yup - only the idiot nutbar crazy gamblers with unlimited income can HOF. I play eco too and it’s the only way to play if you want to stay in all day and not lose your shirt. There’s literally no chance for big returns until you get stupid and pay big money. Lootius is evil empire. Hablo el Diablo?
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Poor Thomas, maybe does not like whiners.. 
I know you probably meant FOMA, but could not resist. Chase markup and not hofs.
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Your take on this genuinely interests me.
Doesn’t a welcome back HoF imply personal loot? I came back a after 7 years, and after consistently cycling more then 40k PEDs on mobs with HP higher then 640 HP (HP of the mob of that 3k Pedder HoF) and even finished bronze mayhem mission grinding this same mob, the best I got in terms of swirls is a 1xx pedder. Where do we stand then? Some get welcome back HoF, others are ugly ducks?
Don’t take this in a wrong way and I’ve already shared my thoughts on this on a previous post on this thread; I’m just curious in understanding the insight of someone that has cycled way more than me and thus has more experience
Welcome back HoF = Amount of loss
You made, before you rage quited last time. ?
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That’s an assumption mate, I didn’t rage quit ?.
I understand very well what you mean, but that was not the core of my question.
This is the same as what fuels the idea of clawbacks and/or paybacks. It is selection bias.
Someone see people who hit big, check their history, and see that they have recently come back from a break. Then we call this a welcome back HOF. We don’t see all the hundreds of people who return from breaks and get nothing. We only see the ones who hit big and thus conclude “when you return after a long break you are more likely to hit big”
Same with clawbacks and paybacks:
We mostly see the ones verbally upset with their returns post a big hit, and conclude that the system takes back what it has given.
Similar with payback hofs. We see people complain about their poor returns and then see their name on the ticker with a big hit.
Now I am probably going to get a bit of hate for this post from the ones who believe (very strongly) that these things are real.
I have just seen no indicator at all that there is any form of change to loot before or after a big hit. There is no visible change to mean, rolling variance, KS, distribution, autocorrelation(near).
What is very difficult to test is any changes to extreme right tail probabilities. That leaves a small theoretical possibility for “paybacks”
but a “clawback”, where losses systematically follow a big hit would require a reduction in the body or near right tail probabilities. This would be detectable with rolling mean, variance, KS test or autocorrelation. None of which have been observed in my dataset thus far.
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The point on my question was way simpler than that and very well explain by Ferial. I too believe that “welcome back hof” or “payback hof” and so on are just bias but was curious to hear insights of way more experienced players than me.
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yall realize those big hofs are just corrections right? like legit if you hit a big hof that means you where prolly down that much + some more on top. dont let the big numbers fool you. and come back hofs are just hofs that you didnt stay around long enough to hit the last time :ROFLMAO: this is a long term game not a hit quick and get out game thats something alot either dont understand or just choose to overlook
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I have cycled a few million peds, never hit a xxxxx hof, and i was happy with it. What made me quit was the fact that i was starting to need xxxxx hofs to minimize my loss
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And this thread right here are filled with so much made up stuff despite numbers being available for anyone to read.
There are no personal loot pools and here is why: Completely unnecessary collection and handling of data since randomness works itself out. If there was, I wouldn’t be swirling my ass off this month.
Every Hof looks like Payback Hof BECAUSE THE RANGE OF MULTIPLIERS IS HUGE. On a perfect day you lose money. We always play at a loss.
Eco doesn’t affect shit for your chance to hof. Once again just look at my last month on EC when I have drastically raised my eco. A lower cost to kill just means a lower bet. If you go super eco on a high HP mob, odds are the same.
Hof’s vart day by day. Right now it is quite high because most players cycle on low cost to kill and we have a ton of loot events.
Usually the reason people experience unreasonable losses is because of improper tracking and sample size. Cycling at a high DPS is expensive if you don’t go for markup. In a perfect world where all stars align I will lose 200-300 ped TT any given night and there are a ton of people out there with much higher.
Humans sock at grasping large numbers which becomes really clear in a game like this where everyone is expected to be able to do so.
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Yep it’s quite clear if one tracks.
eco/eff def has a effect on the long term as been stated by MA the rest id agree with
I mean for your chance to Hof. What you do is you lower your current bet which is great since the volatility isn’t as bad (counted in ped value). It isn’t magic, it is just numbers.
So yes, we agree I was talking in the context of “I play eco I get no Hof”. I’m gonna guess that for most people chosing a high DPP/eff weapon means going down in DPS and number of loot events
Edit: tried editing the post to be less confusing but have complete brain rot at the moment.