Some preliminary 7.6 "Equipment" crafting test

I decided to test out the new crafting system. Here’s my initial experience and I have a couple questions.

First off, all my BP books were gone as the cl info stated, so I had to go get some new books. No problem a minor inconvenience. I wasn’t thrilled with the look of the inside of the new books, its kind of cartoonish. But I’ll get used to it.

I decided to load my basic tubes and give it a go, so I walked over to the machine and selected it and it opened up the crafting gui. I then tried to walk away to my usual spot, and it wouldn’t let me walk away. I liked to be able to walk away and craft in “my spot”. I liked it because it was half way between the machine and storage, and I could see everyone coming and going. Ok, I guess I’ll learn to live with a new spot. But I know people will be confused when they don’t see me in the same spot. lol

After selecting the Equipment BP book, I selected the Basic Tubes BP. It loaded up the BP fine. I then dragged and dropped the Melch and lyst into the window and pressed the "Manufacture button… and weeeeeeeeee got my First CTD of the new VU

I reloged and tried again. This time I got my second CTD at the point when I tried to open my Equipment book weeeeeeeeee :rolleyes:

Finally on the third attempt i was able to manufacture some basic tubes. Here’s where it gets interesting.

The loot window appeared. It had the tubes in it, but they were also put in the inventory screen to the right and auto stacked. I’m not sure why we need a loot window if its all going to autostack anyway, but whatever. I also don’t know why it can autostack in inventory and not in loot window. Seems like it would be a whole lot cleaner and more organized if the loot window stacked, but that might just be my deal. I can’t handle un-organized stuff. lol

Remember when Marco wrote that hint that said residue has meaning ? Well, now you can add your residue back into the window and use it to try and craft some more instead of just TTing it. Great.

Now here’s where it got interesting and what prompted my and some others questions. You will now see ingots appear in your loot window! I got Melch and Lyst ingots :eek: I thought wow cool new addition (I didn’t do enough to see if a bp dropped or not, I assume/hope they didn’t change that).

I assumed they would be added back into my inventory of ingots when i claimed the loot, however they were not. :confused:

I looked at the count of ingots that I had in the crafting gui, and then I closed the loot window, and didn’t see the count change. I then closed the crafting gui window and checked my inventory but I didn’t see my inventory ingot count change :eek: Ayla was there and she relogged and didn’t see a change in her count either. I reloaded the crafting window just to check, and put the ingots back into the gui window and nope, it didn’t change the count.

So, we don’t know what happended to the ingots we looted ??? we don’t know if the ingots were supposed to be added back into the inventory and they weren’t because of a bug, or what was supposed to happen here? We aren’t sure, and would appreciate any input you might have.

Here’s a screeny of the new look, enjoy :smiley:

PS, Quantity or Condition? I guess it doesn’t apply to Basic Tubes, I tried both and didn’t see any difference.

https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/3/2/1/PE2005_09_22_crafting_nu_vu_76_thumb.jpg[size=1][br]Click to enlarge[/br][/size]

HI! its Many :smiley:

The ingots that you looted go back into your ingot count in the window if you look on a near success and see you looted an ingot you will also notice your ingot count does not change. Also quality gives you more successes but lower ~TT and then as you raise the bar you will get either more fails, more residues, or more items…

Mac - you think that weas fun…I logged .. the equivalent of two full books of blueprints have gone - loaded the rest of my blueprints into new books which evolved into books with bits of gold. I logged to ask MA WTF my blueprints had gone to ..logged back on and my books had ‘devolved’ into the normal blue basic books…!!! Oh..and emptying my inventory and relogging doesn’t work!

Mac, I think dougkush is on the right tack regarding the loot ingots. Same functionality as before except now the waste ingots also show up in the loot >>informational<< window. That’s all the loot window is from this point on, without any function beyond being an informational feature, it is no longer an intermediate storage point.

Now, can someone post any of the new BP’s when they drop.. I want to see some of those perm-decay high efficiency items? :tongue2:

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Now, can someone post any of the new BP’s when they drop.. I want to see some of those perm-decay high efficiency items? :tongue2:
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10k mech clicks and 1k armor no bp’s at all :rolleyes:

now for something alittle more on the topic:
seems as I slide the bar I’m fine about 2/5’s of the way and I actually profit off of near success sometimes yeilding 18 residues :smiley: sometimes all of my resources back plus some residue and then sometimes a success with residue. I wonder what auktuma would get back if he slide the bar the whole way and did a lvl I 100 QR item :eek:

So of-topic (sorry) but Mac??? U hunted snabels lol :wink:

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So of-topic (sorry) but Mac??? U hunted snabels lol :wink:
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Hell ya! I’m a proud Snabble Slayer :handgun:

I’m still searching for that elusive imp 2870 :drool:

I have been Nerve Blastin the hell out of them in various places when I get tired of bubbling noobies. I looted a Good Teleport chip off a Kreltin Young the other day and figured if I was ever going to be able to use it, I’d have to get my ass in gear and start skillin like a villain (thanks for the motivation Jimmy).

Why you got eyes out there keepin track of what I’m hunting for some reason? Did I accidently KS some of your Snabbles ? :laugh:

Now get back on topic or no soup for you!

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I got a few BPs while crafting mech. components. Seems like you get blueprints from all types of components now when you craft one of the three types :slight_smile:

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PS, Quantity or Condition? I guess it doesn’t apply to Basic Tubes, I tried both and didn’t see any difference.

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the vaselin slider is maybe som what bugged.
i tryed it , but where ever i put it it still hurt a lot while i tailor.
for me lots of vaselin ( quantity) works better because i som time get a result ,after over 25 click with good vaselin ( condition) i still was total unable to make lvl 1 clothe (bp qr 100).

edit :
to conclude : MA prefert lots of crap vaselin then som very good vaselin , this is som what reflect of general game , lots of things with poor quality , and if customer scream and whine loud because it hurt , just add som more vaselin … why bother make it good…

Yep, I tried tailoring too (low skills, average quality bp). With sitch moved to quantity I got fair number of succeses, some skill improvements and very rare bp qr improvements. When it was moved to condition I almost never made a single success, yet had some blueprint qr improvements and a rare skill improvement.

Try finding a happy place in the bar. When I moved it slightly it made a huge difference. Just a cm move upped my filters from 6 to 30 and dampers 6 to 36. If I would get near success I would get over 10 residues on a near success. Also, I managed to get one success on a full condition and had 120 filters with 12 residues. Once again I think MA set their standards to high.

For equipment (mech/metal/electr)
Bar to 0 → generates a small amount that in 90% of cases is more then the cost to make the specific equipment
Bar to max → loads of misses and if succses the result will cover like 6-10 or more times to build, but that’s with loads of misses.
It could be 5 misses and 20 to

Residue… still dunno :confused:

For condition items:
Bar to 0 → normal
Bar to max → full tt (lot of misses)
Bar to max + residue → full tt + loads of residue; could be 1k+ residue, but only 100 to (lot of misses)
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I just copy+paste from the <“Usless bar” or something like that> thread cuz I was to lazy to write 1 more time the same thing
Anyways 100% sure that this is true

residue questions?

=> https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6242&highlight=residue