A lot of good things have already been said in this thread.
On your first question “Is this a place for a teenager like me?” Although some people would claim that the community in this game is more mature than with some other games (really??), you will be not be the first player in this game of this age. I would say, enjoy this game!
Will playing for free offer a good trial experience?
In my opinion starting this game now has never been so easy with all the starter areas and missions, puny mobs, etc…however, once you have finished them and you are put on your own, expect a tough time…depositing would in this case make game play much easier, but there are enough opportunities to keep playing for free, but don’t expect to get rich easy (remember, if it was easy, every player would be rich). You have to recognize and find the opportunities to earn money to keep funding your gameplay.
Earning money will typically not happen through the main professions (hunting, mining, crafting), on average they will cost you money, unless you are lucky.
Earning enough money to keep playing or extending your playing style, can happen in a few ways:
from other players, by selling loot, crafted items, mined minerals or ores which are in demand and can be sold with markup to other players, or perform activities for other players, e.g. offer healing service.
by using the opportunities provided by Mindark/planets: grabbing oil at the oil rigs, sweating, searching for stones (and fruit).
external funding; there are a few websites which provide in games peds for doing tasks, watching videos, etc.
If you “survive” this period while playing for free, I think you have experienced the most important aspects in this game. Depositing however would make gameplay much easier and would allow you to play on higher levels much faster. However, the essentials remain the same, just the stakes are higher.
1- Online casino: If you’ve got alot of money and want to try your luck then yes this is the place for your.
2- 3rd world gold farmer: If you’re living in a 3rd world country with low wages, and your willing to do the same thing over and over again to make less than a dollar an hour, then again yes it might be the place for you.
but if you’re looking for alot of action and shooting, fun stuff with a large player base then no. There isn’t alot of that happening here, mainly do to the fact that its real cash economy. So everyone is just trying grind stuff to make a little profit out of it.
Holy Cow…you dont talk teenager bro and you drew out the best this forum has to offer. It can slew hard to the negative side at times so be aware of that. Take a lot of it with a grain of salt Or better yet ignore about 90% of the negativity you run across altogether :).
You sound as if you have what it takes and I would refer you back to Narfi’s post as reflecting much of my perspective too without boring you with a repeat. Costs you nothing to give this a good shot and if you don’t like it you can say you tried and go find something you prefer.
I am four months in game now and haven’t deposited anything yet, but I am ready to now. I have learnt heaps about playing eco on a budget, have managed to graduate discipleship and have enjoyed all of it so far with no deposits.
Its a grind at times and selling sweat to get a few ped here and there is a pure drudge to me…but its how I did it. WITH a lot of help from friends I might add. Friends are important in this game and with your attitude you will collect plenty of them.
Friend me in game and I am happy to assist you in any way I can. That can include flying you to hard to get tp’s or a chat about how to go about pursuing missions and growth at your early stages. I’ll help however I can.
send “tarcoula stormdancer uluru” a friend request if you like…glad to see any player with your level of maturity no matter how old they are.
Wow…negative much? He can easily make an in-game living(no, not a real world living, but yes even as non depo he can easily make enough to fund hunting/mining pretty often(if eco)) by trading. Buy low sell high, at about 50 ped, split 1/2 fun 1/2 business & continue, you’ll have fun & slowly profit.
It’ll take time to get a deal on auc that no one overbids, I haven’t yet but it’s only a matter of time & patience.
Oh, & I think I’ve found a way to profit almost continuously with hunting…but on a very small scale, sadly. But still, its fun
I started recently, but been reading a lot about this game but still not nearly enough as it seems. Somebody wrote that this is not a game. They were right.
BAD WAY: Try what i did. 3-4 days without depo, learning how to sweat:-) Depo and invest in skills and bigger gun. Waste everything on hunting bigger mobs, lose, lose, lose, strip down and hunt lower level mobs, get to the bottom where you cant repair your weapon… Depo again i guess:-)
BETTER WAY: Or do what i am now doing, after burning 950+ ped of my first depo. Money left, few peds + new Depo and hunt mob that you can hunt without armor and healing and on non taxed land. Kill mob in 6-12 shots. Entropedia, see which weapon can you use. See average damage when maxed on that weapon. Multiply that number with 6 and then with 12. That is the X-damage 6 and x-damage12. Now x6 and x12 is the range of Health of the mobs you should hunt and be ok. I didn`t get it at first, shooting 20+ bullets on regen big mob, healing, decaying armor and heal tool, and guess what:-) Negative return.
Listen to those old players, they know what they say. :wise:
Im 14 but Ive put in a bit of money. To me it sounds like you want MA to pay you just to play. This is a hard game to profit in and takes serious dedication. Also, you need to lose money to make money so yea. Add me ingame if you are really serious about profit and we can talk. Remember, this game is long term, losing a few thousand ped in a month doesnt really mean anything. A good example of what I say is Strashs mining log.
If playing for free I seriously advise just putting in twenty dollars. Im not really into this but if you want, you can buy players ore for a lower mu and sell it for higher. After a few months you will probably be able to do some amped mining, plus you would have a few months to research and talk to people.
Look at Stryker by the way. One of the best players in the game, started as a teen. Don’t get me wrong though, he started early and had a lot of advantages. I do not advise speaking with him though, Im worried you may be led in the wrong direction.
By the way, this is not gambling at all. Loot works specifically and will always average at around 90% when crafting, mining, etc. This doesnt mean it will always be 90%. With mining for example, amped, returns stay fairly low until after a few dedicated months to a year. After a year though, you could have made 10k USD. Look at Strash, good example especially because its all here on the forum.
Laws on gambling are very strict. I live in the U.S. and there is no way the game could just come in and people (kids and teens) could legally gamble online. To think this game is gambling is false. It would never be legal if it were and there are many patterns you can find to prove it.
You sweat for 8, 10, 12 hours a day and enjoy the rest of your day. Some days you don`t sweat at all, and just enjoy, but those days you burn money easily and regret later slowly:-)
Ingame sweating=IRL working. Boring but puts the items/food on the table. The only difference here is that you can enjoy this game without sweating. Exchange your IRL sweat for game currency. Maybe increase it, maybe decrease it. But you are not forced to sweat in game. I started with 20 and later 100 dollars depo. And another 100 dollars later and that is in 25 days. I love to enjoy game and i hate working IRL, so shooting things and mining and driving/flying around is really fun for me:-)
like most people pointed out all the positive stuff allready. Give it a try, play smart and most important: have fun
If u fail to profit u at least had fun while loosing a few bucks
I agree with everything you have to say, but being that this game is based out of Sweden and not the US, your last part isn’t 100% true. I’m not saying EU is a casino, but I’m just saying that if it were, it wouldn’t be as easy to shut it down by the US since it is not a game based out of the US.
I could be wrong but I believe they switched from PEDs in loot windows to animal oils specifically because the PEDs made it “look like gambling”. It’s all about appearances. I’m not familiar with Swedish law, but the legal definition of gambling is not the same as the general definition (to wager money on an uncertain outcome). Every time you kill/loot a mob you’re gambling.
EU is arguably worse than any casino. A casino has no clocks, no windows, tons of alcohol, you use chips instead of real money, etc… Everything is cleverly designed to make you spend money and feel like you’re in fantasy play-land.
EU on the other hand, doesn’t hide behind any tricks. It very openly wants to take over your life completely. It’s surrounding you not only with lights and sounds, but an entire virtual universe where the entire economy runs on one simple thing: Gambling. But hey, at least it’s honest and straightforward.
“Make your fortune”, “start your new life on Planet Calypso”, “earn a living by playing this game”.
To the OP:
IMO there are 3 things that draw most players to EU.
To live in a “fun” virtual sci-fi reality instead of a real one (basically escaping their boring lives)
To gamble
The addictive pleasurable rush of grinding/competition/ego which is severely amplified by the allure of RCE
At the end of the day choosing between a game like EU and World of Warcraft (for example) comes down to whether or not these 3 things are appealing enough to you in order to sacrifice everything you get with a conventional MMO (excellent interactive gameplay and PvP, bugs that actually get fixed, an even playing field, the list goes on).
True millionare know that investing take time.
People try all these make it over night schemes and they will never be the millionare.
patience takes practice. Patience is free but hard to master.
If you make money in this game or not I can guarantee one thing, this is one of the best games I have played and you can have the most fun in a game you have ever had!
Or better yet ignore about 90% of the negativity you run across altogether :).