Has anyone else noticed that people are are apparently doing tons of drugs lately?
Who is going to pay 500,000 PED for a gun?
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i thought 30k was expensive already to own a pixel gun in a freaking no-gambling “game”
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Anyone that wants it to pay that price for it. This has been discussed in a couple of threads recently. I have an analogy to this. During lockdown the house prices in the UK went mad with people making and accepting offers at well over the “real value” of their properties in under an hour. Recent media polls show that many of these purchasers are now regretting the ridiculous prices they paid. This stemmed from a number of reasons. Stamp duty was reduced. People were furloughed with plenty of time on their hands and no reduction in income. Maybe EU weapons prices are a reflection of this state of the planet. During Covid people were furloughed and stuck at home. You couldn’t spend money going out, eating or shopping, what is there left. So you have 40 hours a week extra time on your hands and very little to spend your money on. Traditionally I would expect a serious EU player to make purchases on UL items based on ROI, that is “how long do I have to pew pew this gun before I get my money back in MU over buying a stack of (L) weapons”. The formula had changed as people had much more time on their hands and more disposable income. All of a sudden a gun that did take them 2 years to get their money back on they could do in 3 or 4 months. What is of real importance is what happens next. As the world returns to normal, those 40 extra hours a week are lost and playing time goes back to normal. The gun takes 2 years again to get the money back on and now you can spend £50 a night down the pub or restaurant or on a spending spree. I would expect the cost of UL items to return to pre-Covid prices over the next six months but maybe the resellers will try to maintain the high prices. Then again the item is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it
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It only takes one bori to pay the most ridiculous price and apparently there are a few like him lately so no wonder prices gone that high.
Not understanding how the game works and what you can do with certain tools, yeah, the price may seem ridiculous. In the end it’s just an investment with certain ROI for some, or a gambling tool for others. It’s a matter of perspective really… but if you can’t grasp the basics, doesn’t mean that others are on drugs.
As for prices going down pre-covid, I doubt, since people that have been using them have realized the potential and got some results, they just won’t sell them… imo
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weapon prices go up when margins shrink - the same thing occurred in mining from 2012 to present…
if average markup output is 105% and average TT% is 97%, weapon prices will be low because you can “succeed” with almost any weapon
if average markup output is 101.5% and average tt% is 97% weapon price will be high because you need 85+ eff to succeed unless you have truly insane looter levels.
the tighter profitability margins get, the higher weapon prices will go because they become “required” for successful play (for the vast majority of people)
It’s like when Hunter B sells paintings for 500,000 isn’t it? Like incomprehensible unless…!!
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I wouldn’t assume, that because I can do a statistical analysis and prove mathematically that there is no way to justify that price that I “don’t understand the basiscs”.
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The issue to me is, I have seen the real numbers on returns with these weapons. The real numbers I have seen do not match what has been posted as returns on PCF. The returns with these weapons don’t justify a 500k price tag.
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I’m curious, how can you prove the price is not justifiable?
What does it even mean “real numbers” ?
Both the justification and the results with such a tool ar per case and results may vary greatly. Some choose to hunt pupugi with BC120 some decide to chase MU. Their results would greatly vary… and both would have real numbers just that one would probably chase skill and the other could make a lot of profit…
Again, some know exactly what they get and what to do with these, others just get them because they’re top and maybe it will work…
Some people can’t justify using amps, enhancers, or buy UL gun.
The results depend on few factors:
- one’s med term and long term goals and the decisions one makes;
- how one accumulates and puts in practice knowledge,
- how determined one is.
- what tool is one using…
I left the tool last because it is indeed the last on the list. You need to check the others first then get to the tool…
There’s a big secret revealed by me in this thread; might help you..
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-secret-of-weapons-exposed.281450/
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At least a weapon does something. There has been a guy on calytrade trying to sell a pair of “FEN” sunglasses for 100k. 
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the amount of people who think tehy can spend 150k on a gun and then go shoot 5k hp mobs with a 10k ped bankroll is fucking astonishing. they come back complaiing about loot after 200k cycled and sell the weapon calling the game a scam. it’s a shame.
these weapons require millions of ped cycled and several months/years of playing to see the return.
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But they also have real numbers… yet that doesn’t make my numbers any less real.
Let’s give two simple examples.
Player A has as goal, shooting one hour a day after work, some big mobs with the soc
Player B has 16 hours a day to shoot and goes straight for highest profit activity in the game.
Player A would be really reckless to buy a 200k ped gun while player B would be really silly not to.
Player A could never justify the investment and would be better off with limited weapons really, while player B can make the investment back in less than 6 months but would loose so much money using limited weapons… so you see, there are as many real numbers as there are players. Each player has an unique combination of: style, goals, available time and money, determination, pace, knowledge… but because there are plenty of player type B, the price is justified.
Stick to Ls, OP, and stop dreaming of nice weapons if you wanna just chill…
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If MA stumbles over the server’s power plug and decides not to plug it in again…
I cant wait to see the faces of the ppl paying 50.000 US$ for some pixels…
I will die laughing.
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sunglasses do something too … they help you avoid eye damage on all the millions of globals and hofs one can make at crafting sexplosives and fucknel :ROFLMAO:
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Isn’t it painful to wait for it to happen, 16 years and going, maybe another 50 years? Imagine your losses due to using low grade equipment.
Hope you won’t die laughing tho, some people who knew when and where to invest in this game, what to hunt, what to craft, where to mine, made several times those 50k and a few people invested 50k from the profit made ingame from scratch.
So If and when the plug is pulled, just enjoy your time here, adjust to your reality and don’t laugh at other people’s suffering. Many took a huge beating with the loot 2.0 and some who adjusted came out much stronger. Learn from them and do what justifies your perspective, which is very different that other ppl’s perspective…
Some people laugh for many years at those that say the game is dead or its death is imminent…
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I’m like you Kaiser in that I see some of these prices, do the math and even factoring in likely resale value in 2-4 years, I still fail to see the huge profit potential at those price points.
But then again, here’s the reality of things: Yeah some folks pay WAY above the average price. Others, for various reasons get an item way below average.
ROFL, just because people want a price doesn’t mean they will get it.
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Agreed, the math does not support these prices. Also, when people mass leave again, after covid is a distant memory, prices will go back to what they were. May take a year or two.
You’re always complaining on people’s threads about their prices, since like forever, covid has nothing to do with it. Everything is too expensive for you. Maybe stay L?
Well this is the difference between you and me.
Some need to take this as a profession and investment.
I already have a profession and i am already well invested, and both my profession and investments don’t rely on an ukrainian soft porn starlet owned, fishy swedish company that is lurching on the edge of bankruptcy every other year.
For me it is just pixels in a game.
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