My whiny thread. Who do I complain to about my loot?

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I made one of these threads about 7-8 years ago because I thought it might help me like it seems to do so many others, but it didn’t, so I quit the game for a few years. I couldn’t stay away, but I’m starting to have those same feelings. I mean, what’s a guy got to do to get a 5 digit HoF? Just one, is that really too much to ask? I’ve been chasing it since 2009 and I know I’m small potatoes but with over 1.2M in globals, and with multiple professions over 100, it sure seems like I should have been able to experience something really nice by now. A huge MU drop, or big piles of ped, or both, like all of my peers seem to have done, or continue to do.

Is it because I don’t AFK craft my entire bankroll when I’m not hunting? Is it because I’d rather hunt than mine so don’t do that? I try different planets, events mobs, big, small, shared, everything all over the place. I bought an ultra high efficiency UL weapon, and have all the nice goodies to go on it, but still my returns last month were 85% according to my logs. Ok I think to myself, maybe this time something is building up for me and I’ll get some of those lost thousands of peds back and my big HoF finally, but every time I show a little faith, I’m crushed.

I get it, I have a full time job and I’m -7 GMT, so I’m automatically disadvantaged before I even log on, but I try to play as much as I can without tanking my real life or giving my wife a reason to divorce me. I understand that so many people cycle so much more than me in a day than I can in a week, or even a month some parts of the year, but doesn’t even a blind squirrel find a nut once in a while? I can pick the right mob, proven every time something I’m hunting hits big as soon as I log off. Discounting boxes, I’ve never had an UL hunting loot better than Jaguar Shins (F), nor a big ESI, nor really any of the super duper drops that everybody around me collects up each week.

So, @Socrates|Mindark, what’s the play here? Support won’t help me, ofc they just say they’re sorry and I have as much of a chance as anybody. I think they’re lying. No, I know they’re lying, we all know the game is fixed and tilted towards specific players, even to the degree that they’ve been given inside info. We all know it’s true, but we put up with things anyways. Is that what I’ve been doing wrong, just putting up with things and grinding away anyways.?

Who do I complain to to try and change things for myself before I just get tired of chasing something I’ll never achieve and sell out, again?

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Ever tried to yell at one of them AI NPCs in-game…?

:slight_smile:

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Can absolutly resonate with this.
Spent a FORTUNE on the best gear, hunt as much as I have time for, constantly deposit, every deposit is opening seasonal boxes, but I NEVER get any good items from boxes while others I see dont just get 1 good item but multiples in mere weeks but for me, opening weekly for a year gets me nothing.

Then there is the loot! Not 1 single good loot all year, ive been afraid to complain about it incase they make it even worse for me for complaining. Im glad you did so I had this oppertunity to have a little vent myself. Getting super depressing, no matter what I do, what upgrade i spend a fortune on, nothing pays off.

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Sorry to hear that. If it’s any consolation, I have not gotten any seasonal rings after about 30k seasonal boxes.

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Decide do you want to play for MU or HoF’s.

Swings vs stability.

IF what you do wont work, adjust your playstyle, test, track and compare? ?

Consider why you play? Adjust your expectation maybe?

Playing for “fun”, based on your assumptions or beliefs usualy leads to bad feelings. ?

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i’ve been here and can relate… just had my 15th year anniversary?

only just looted my first real UL item worth 5k+ peds from actually shooting. i’ve never hit a 5-digit hunting hof despite nearly being an “entropia master” which is wild… the TT has just never been there for me.

for what you complain of, mostly item loots, comes down to player choices in game. you can grind molochs for a month and i guarantee you will find at least one titan piece for example…

a lot of people play this game… many of which are online 12 hours/day or more. Your expectations must fit in with the reality that you will never play the game that much (nor should you)… i myself play probably 25-30 hours per week and that is HEAVY for me.

Many “super loot” opportunities are around events and new VUs (FEN/TWEN)… when those events come around you must have big dps and a lot of time to play to have a reasonable shot at looting something before it ends. It’s just the reality of how this game functions.

You will not get super loots just grinding random mobs forever… right now only the ARIS bosses are dropping good UL weapons that are not event-based.

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Quitters never get the loot, might be time to quit again.

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You are not alone - I have not had a HOF in hunting for over 18 months now. Last was a tiny 720ped in March 2024 then I rage quit because of how small it was and I sold all my gear and stuff and did a cashout and came back around April this year.

The game hates me and it never changes.

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No, but I’ve asked the AI NPC for advice. Nada.

That’s the point. I can generate a normal HoF, and with the exception of November and December being exceptionally bad, my returns have been in line with what they ought to be. I keep logs and I know where to find SOME markup. But after so long, for mu or stable returns or whatever, doesn’t stand to reason that the big money HoF will come eventually, after 16 years? They do to someone else every single day, multiple someone else’s, people I know and like, that are on my friends list, and that I’m genuinely happy for.

I’ve tried grinding Molochs for a month, for lights they can generate and the Tier Comps they drop. I go there a lot lately actually. Cyrene too, I do way better there then I ever have on Caly. No Titan for me, but even that’s not what I’m talking about.

What I’m looking for is “Kyrisma Pickle Starsong killed a monster and found loot with a value of 22163 PED” or something juicy like that. I mean, 16 years and God knows how much ped that I’ve pumped into this game. Yeah I know the argument about mu vs tt, but either way that’s much less that 1% I can assure you. I think I’ve done my part to keep this game going, even though I know they don’t care about me. It doesn’t seem like a lot to ask at 122 BLP Sniper, even though levels over 100 aint what they used to be.

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at least you can get a hof. I can not even do that lol

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So how much below expected 92% + Looter skill are you right now? Account lifetime cycled wise?

You only get big HoF:s when you are insalely alot on loss side.

Not to mention those loots being 100% shrapnel most of the time.

Dont expect to be paid back the rake % TT wise.

Sound like you played focusing on stability and MU over long period.

IF you want crazy swings you have to play stupid. ? That will lead to bigger losses but make alot more colors and noice.

Fuck ton of complaining too. Gotta choose man. ?

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There’s a small club … and you ain’t in it, son. If you’re the 99% your job is to pay for the fun of the 1%.

That is the way of life on this earth, and nobody is going to make it fair for you…

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My personal favorite is when you grind a mob for like a month, get nothing but continued losses, then one day logout for lunch and come back to see someone you never heard of bagged a 5-digit 10mins after you left.

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My loot has been horrible recently. Those big Hof’s are a curse unless you have discipline since you will start thinking you are an Uber.

I ran the following strategy for a few weeks and things evened out:

  1. Smaller AI missions (Hanna, Leia, Bobby) with smaller gun (running about 100dps or so instead of 150dps)
  2. Aris dailies because profit guarantee
  3. Puny mobs to skill

Then I tried messing around on the weekends regretting it every time. When losses pile up and we get upset we are playing above our level. Yesterday I tried MM and lost 1k ped (about 80% return).

Playing at our level doesn’t mean killing biggest things we can, it means killing stuff we can kill fast enough for the average to start regressing to the mean. For me personally this would be around 3-400 HP mobs even though my level if this was another game would be ten times that.

What actually matters to most players in the end is the absolute numbers and not the average return because most of us don’t mind/max and keep a large enough bankroll. Lowering the cycle is the easiest way to reach this. 95% on 1M ped is still a 50k loss while 80% on 100k ped is only a 20k loss and that is the number most of us focus on.

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That’s all great and everything, until some noob comes on, hits a 25k hunting ATH, then when you check their loot history they have a total of 32k in hunting globals for the few months they’ve been tracked. That screams luck to me, and nothing to do with how or what your hunting, other returns, mark up or anything like that. That’s either blind luck, of which I want some, or MA is pushing a button for that guy.

Maybe @Ludvig|MindArk could enlighten me/us since @Socrates|Mindark hasn’t come around despite my tag, but I’m not holding my breath. Seriously, what am I supposed to think when I see that crap? It’s been happening since 2009, under all the different systems they’ve used since then, before that even.

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Just focus on hunting for markup. You’ll never win the TT game. It took me over 20 years to get my first 5-digit hof, but I’m way up in profit over that time. I focus on markup, and the swirls come when they come. 5 Digit Hof != Profit.

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25k doesn’t make the ATH and requires a minimum cost to kill of 12.5 PED. Most mobs that are that pricy require at least some gear. Maybe if you logged on once in a while your loot would change?

That would be luck. As in any kind of randomness even if it is controlled there are anomalies.

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This. I had 5 digit two months ago and my hunting since is not at TT profit.

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Maybe I haven’t whined sufficiently, because here’s what I’m talking about. Where the eff is mine? Seriouisly, wtf do I gotta do?

Favorite Mob: Annihilation Eviscerator
Highest Loot: 23 570 PED
Total Loot: 402 173 PED
Hunting Rank: NA. of 3 162

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Clearly you haven’t been following what I’ve been saying, about the amount I play or my gear.