My story about argonauts

Entropia Universe Professions Hunting
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My first encounter with argonauts took place a looong time ago (i.e. like 10 weeks), when I was at the end of my tp collecting journey. I was at that time a proud newbie in Vampires soc.

One sunny day, I was staying at Orthos Mound and meditating about the cruel fate of a pixie/jester newbie versus the fearsome molisks young and drones generation 01. My dear friend Runian Founder Newplace interrupted my meditation and told me “hey, dontcha wanna take hadischeim tp?”. Wow. The dream of every self-respecting newbie, the legendary city with particular traders .. wow.

So we went. In the mountains, I saw some huge beasts. Large, brown monsters with huge boxer hands and horrifyin sounds… I was deep impressed (and killed, but that is not the point).

After some time, when I took the path of the blade, killed here and there an argo or two, I decided is time for me to join the Twin Peaks community, those impressing players with nice clothes and nice looking white armours (i.e. rascal).

I arrived at Twin Peaks with pixie, fap 10 and 2 axes 1x0. And there started my saga. “The argonauts chopper” as a fellow socmate in that time called me.

I hunted them furiously, 6-7 hours a day, for 2 month. In two days, I evolved from my equipment to full rascal, 12 axes 1x0 and katsuchi honor.

At that time, the regular loot for an argo was 1 ped, 12 pecs and 5 iron stones. The usual sequence was: 3 regulars, 1-2 no looters and 1 around 20 peds. The 20 pedders appearad variable, once every 5 to 10 mobs.

So, a healthy period.

Until the event. Argonauts performing strange rituals. Large quantities of ores. Wow. Let’s slash them. True chopping, using 3 full valors, 3 runs a day. Now, the average loot was 1,82 ped and 10-20 iron stones. Globals came. I used to hunt them until the global pop-up, then go to sleep.

So passed two weeks. Unlocking martial arts, unlocking melee damage assasement, all on argonauts with incidental trips on feffoids or cornundacaudas, for variation.

Now, last episode. “The spooky loot”. Average loot dropped to 30 pec. Several days, I didn’t realised, until my pedcard started to cry. First, I analysed my swords, my skills. Comme on, at 4k LB using valor, ok, is not highest efficiency, but is not deplorable. So, what is happening? I started asking permanently other players around me.

Conlusion: argonauts stink atm. My guess is that we are getting close to the end of “meteor event” and, probably, argonauts will give an ATH as Thorifoids did in their event.

I wrote this for all players wondering why they have 30% return on argonauts. Calm down, you are not the only one. Yes, you might use your weapons uneconomical, yes, u might be too unskilled for mk2 or katsuchi determination, but yes, their loot is down.

Currently, as I see it, one has two choices:

  • stand back from argonauts until the event ends and loot gets back to some normal state
  • get in and maybe you will be the one to get the ATH (IF that will come, my guess is yes, it will come).

There is no guarantee to nothing. In 10 minutes, you could be a wealthy player or in 1 week you could be broke. Is up to you to decide.There is no secure path.

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Interesting reading! - I too have noticed the average loots drop on Argos, and I too used to keep a lot of stats recording average drops. In spite of the low average loot I have been fairly lucky with GSI loots which in the long term have helped even things out. However I hate relying on luck to see me through!, and others must share a similar disquiet over seeing such low returns in spite of increasing skills.

The million dollar question though is this- have other mobs loot drops decreased in a similar fashion, or is it restricted to Argos during the meteor event?

I have not hunted enough other creatures to comment on this.

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I dont think that if 3 ppl get bad loots in a period of time we can make a "rule" that "argos loot bad now".,...maybe other ppl in the meantime have fun and make some peds hunting them..maybe this is why YOUre loosing…because someone else is getting the goo loots…jeez…

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argo s 35 % for me, was lucky with a gsi, but overall, bad loots, no faps anymore, or knight parts and much less iron

butthen again i have had bad loots on everythign i hunted before

if everybody has good loots the game woudl go bancrupt, its all quit simple,
PE doesnt make new cash so in general all deposits = MA and pay outs
itsonly a quation of how long u last

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[QUOTE=CBB]

if everybody has good loots the game woudl go bancrupt
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I’m a smidge under 3 weeks into the game… I’ve had a few globals myself.. some good loots.. but am definitely in the hole $$ wise… everybody doesn’t have to have good loots all the time.. but what I’ve noticed in my little time here.. is that there are a certain amount of people… the SAME people.. that global every day.. even several times a day.. hunting.. (not fabricating… even though there are a few that global 10+ times a day) i do a lot of hunting myself.. and after spending 300 ped in ammo and repairs in a day and making nothing out of it except a few skill points… and then continue to see the SAME people global time and time again… it kind of makes me wonder… i play a lot too.. 10 hours a day minimum usually.. and usually more than 24 hours STRAIGHT - twice… on the weekends.. ive noticed some stuff i dont like too much…

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Uriel, those ppl who global several times a day spends several k of peds on ammo and hunt big mobs. If they don’t global, they have holes in pockets larger than you.

Get over it. And ppl globaling crafting hehe… In the first point, to be able to craft high items, u must spend hundreds of $ to skill. And those items, the raw materials costs so much that the globals barely help them to break even. If they break even.

and u had few globals in 3 weeks… dude, u are lucky. my first global was after 6 weeks.

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i CHOOSE to pay for this.. so i’m not really bitching about that aspect of it that much…its entertainment.. but the main problems i have so far.. are tp’ing into a goup of 5 mobs.. (dont give me that mob density bs) and being injured through SOLID objects… they should be exactly that - SOLID! drones shooting their lasers through mountains??? atrox biting you through giant chunks of stone or other barrier whent heres 6 feet between you??? please! its not lag either.. not a single bit.. and whats with the wasting 50 rounds of ammo or more to kill an exarosaur or anything else for that matter??? you can CLEARY see the bullets HITTING the creature through the scope (even at pointblank range).. yet nothing happens.. (not lag either… i know when theres lag) if it werent for those 2 things.. the game would be absolutely marvelous…

:slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=Uriel]
its not lag either.. not a single bit.. and whats with the wasting 50 rounds of ammo or more to kill an exarosaur or anything else for that matter??? you can CLEARY see the bullets HITTING the creature through the scope (even at pointblank range).. yet nothing happens.. (not lag either… i know when theres lag) if it werent for those 2 things.. the game would be absolutely marvelous…
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Its two things, lag between you and the server and the fact your not skilled enough to hit every shot :wise: Everyone misses, if you miss two times, simply move back and pause for a second and fire away again

Also, this is the future, of course lasers can go through solid objects, just not yours :silly2:

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[QUOTE=Panther]
I dont think that if 3 ppl get bad loots in a period of time we can make a "rule" that "argos loot bad now".,...maybe other ppl in the meantime have fun and make some peds hunting them..maybe this is why YOUre loosing…because someone else is getting the goo loots…jeez…
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For me it was refreshing to hear someone’s honest yet subjective appraisal of Argos loots of late - I don’t see it as a whining thread - is that how you see it?

If there is enough feedback from players that there is a drop in the Average (excluding Hofs and Globals - I assume these are pure luck and fairly random) Argo loots, then I shall simply switch to hunting other mobs.

As oft quoted PE is a "dynamic economy " - Who knows what that really means? - to me I interpret it as not all the mobs will consistently yield good loots, but over all the loot distribution should be fairly consistent.

You are right in saying that more statistics are needed before we can reach conclusions - can you help in this area?

Personally I have hunted Argos almost exclusively for the last six months now, and for me personally I have seen the average regular loots go down.

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[QUOTE=Uriel]
and whats with the wasting 50 rounds of ammo or more to kill an exarosaur or anything else for that matter??? you can CLEARY see the bullets HITTING the creature through the scope (even at pointblank range).. yet nothing happens.. (not lag either… i know when theres lag) if it werent for those 2 things.. the game would be absolutely marvelous…

:slight_smile:
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That annoyed me too in the beginning beyond belief.. being more skilled now I miss much less often.. And I NEVER shoot twice standing same spot, usually I glide a bit backwards all the time while shooting.

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[QUOTE=Machman]
For me it was refreshing to hear someone’s honest yet subjective appraisal of Argos loots of late - I don’t see it as a whining thread - is that how you see it?

If there is enough feedback from players that there is a drop in the Average (excluding Hofs and Globals - I assume these are pure luck and fairly random) Argo loots, then I shall simply switch to hunting other mobs.

As oft quoted PE is a "dynamic economy " - Who knows what that really means? - to me I interpret it as not all the mobs will consistently yield good loots, but over all the loot distribution should be fairly consistent.

You are right in saying that more statistics are needed before we can reach conclusions - can you help in this area?

Personally I have hunted Argos almost exclusively for the last six months now, and for me personally I have seen the average regular loots go down.
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As i said…if the loots go “down” that doesnt mean that they go down for all of us...maybe for a bunch of ppl...for others they loot good (immagine that otherwise u wouldent see argo hofs afterall). If the loot distribution is to be constant now wheres the “dynamic loot system”?

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Panther, go put 3-4 swords in argonauts and we shall speak after, ok?

My “research” was made at Twin Peaks, harassing every ppl I could met with questions about how their loot is. That was 1-2 weeks ago, I stopped hunting them (argonauts, that is) ever since.

HoF/globals have absolutely nothing to do with average loot. I think that HOF/global is most likely tide to the “popularity” of a certain mob. And even hofs. In the good period, used to be like 15-20 daily globals (in my playing time, so probably 50 or more in 24 h) and 5-6 hofs larger than 1k on argonauts. Now, they give 5-6 globals and 1-2 hofs in my playing time.

Same with ambulimax. Them had a boom like 2 weeks ago, now is dropped. Now seems like armaxes and atroxes are on the wave.

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Did put more than 3-4 swords in argos…did that for months…day after day. And saw good days with good loots and bad days with below average loots. All i say is that “IF LOOT IS BAD FOR A HANDFULL OF PEOPLE ON A MOB THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS BAD FOR ALL THE PLAYERS”.

my 2 pecs

Panther of the Templars

P.S.: As my ideea seems not to be properly understood ill stop posting here on this thread.And i dont think my english is that bad :wink: