Ok, let’s say:
I started EU long time ago due to attraction towards mining activity.
My background is as a chiken miner, that used to go with heaviest amp my tool could fit and hundreds ped of probes.
I remember been doin 800 ped probes and loosing tnos of money.
Leeloo always been someone to take as inpiration for mining for me.
Recently I wanted to try out mining seriously, with lbml and all necessary features.
Leeloo is for me someone like a sister or a very very dear member of family, she guided me into the correct mining world, and results didnt waited to come!
Her tips significally improved my mining returns, and literally i can say to have found a new way to play the game.
With regards to a mining layout, anything is fine as long as you do not overlap too much.
And here’s one of my own personal tips, if the loot sucks, STOP MINING !!! On average you have a 27% chance to find something, if you are mining both ent and ore, the odds increase to 54%. If you miss after your own set amount of attempts, so yourself a favour and STOP MINING !!
For me at this moment HR doesn’t say much anymore.
I still can have a low HR and do profit since there seem to be more multipliers than before, even on runs of 50-100 ped. Had it also when I got 9 NRF in a row, still finished the run nice.
I only do runs for 1 thing so never ores/enm on caly for the same time.
In order to see if I am typing out my @$$, I decided to make a little Excel sheet simulating 50k mining drops at a hitrate of 27.1% just to see how many misses it’s possible to get in a row …
Turns out 20+ is possible if mining a single resource type.
As for hits in a row, again 20+ is possible if mining for 2 out of 3 resource types.
I tested the honeycomb on FOMA now (enmatter only), cant say much cause it was only 1 dome but the results :
Unamped
Probes used : 79 ped
Decay : 4,54 ped (F106 + 1 enh) looking for azur
So totall costs : 83,54 ped
TT return : 132,70 ped
79 ped in probes so that means 158 drops and I found 8 claims ^^ so a normal HR for foma with 5,06%
Not the place to go mining with amps lol
Friend is testing another dome
So here again, well balanced and as long as you use the honeycomb it should be ok imo.
For towers to get, probably the cycling comes in, but for me I’m already glad I can break even or get some profits (and have fun)
I suggest this thread for sticky. For someone who just starts mining, all this information is valuable. When I started mining, I wished i could have a mentor who knew about mining but I had already graduated by then. I googled here and there but never came upon this thread, especially one by Leeloo, a player I admire because she plays wisely and is willing to share, as many other players in this forum, from her vast experience. So I went today to her shop in Treasure Island looking for enhancers and got advice on which finder to use at my level how many enhancers to get and whether to use amps and which amps and came out of there feeling a bit more comfortable.
Haha awesome advice with the cars, never thought at this :laugh:
Gread thread, I must say. Even if it has some theoretical unprovable premises, the suggested behaviour is sound and is what it matters in the end, what we do with the theory.
There is something which I would add. I must confess that I am the kind which TT’s 90% of his finds and focuses on few high MU finds. The idea with trying to sell all finds is great, but you have to be careful with your bankroll. This works great if you mine unamped and, most important, you have patience. I did tons of mistakes not having patience. If you manage (I usually don’t) to immerse in this roleplay of mining where TT exists only to buy probes from (and to sell eventual broken L tools), it will completely change your game. Try to replace the HoF table with your pedcard. That is what should give swirles Alternative to selling small stacks but still not TT stuff is to try to focus (after the unavoidable beginning period when you map resources) to something like 50ped (for low MU, for high MU even 10 ped can work) tt of a resource. So, say, if you have 500 peds on your name, try to go for 4-5 resources only (and 2-3 more will come anyway), so somehow the stacks are easier to manage. Also finding a crafter with a permanent need for certain resource can be a great way to save both time, auction fees and build nice human relations.
P.S.: almost forgot: WERE YOU USING AMPS WHEN YOU HIT THAT ATH?? IT’S BEEN YEARS SINCE I’M WONDERING :laugh:
P.P.S: basic mapping can be done with rookie finder also. Heavily biased towards lowdepth resources, so lots of lyst belk blau oil melchi etc, but at least you have SOME intel.
I really wrote this cause many people I know where telling me how much they where loosing lots cause they where mainly running around (read chicken run) while dropping probes, so hope it helped. Lots cant be proven imo, its just the way I mine, have fun make profit.
It takes indeed patience with the low end recources, but they do sell. Other mining friends do the same now and it changed their way of mining also, but need to admit I keep having big stacks of garcen, lyst, blaus, even narc in storage.
For the moment I’m focussing on high MU ores/enmatters + the mining missions since those ores/enmatter come as “collateral” damage and as to be expected they are stacking up in storage. Making small stacks like 50-100-200-300-400 and putting them on auction helps cause they do sell.
Only go for a few resources helps indeed a lot to not stack up much.
A crafter will not buy at those high rates you sell at auction cause of the small stack. I craft enhancers/amps myself and sell my own recources on auction (small stacks with high mu) and buy very cheap stuff to craft with
And for that ATH … I found it with a F-105 maxed and no amp on it, this isn’t possible anymore now since all is capped.
Thank you so much for creating this. I’m still new to mining and this exposed some gaps in my knowledge.
I do have a question about overlapping though - why is it a problem?
Out of ignorance when I get a hit, I have been continuing to drop probes around that hit until it runs dry. This just seemed intuitive to me, and often I can stack up 6-8 claims right in the same spot. I’ve gotten 2 HOFS this way. Are you saying this shouldn’t happen? My overall returns seem pretty decent so far.
It is possible to have 2-3 claims at 1 spot but those are very rare and SR (Succes Rate) is very small.
Because of the SR is so low it will make your run more expensive and it will be harder to get a decent return (80+% TT) How many times did you drop a probe with overlapping and how many times you had a hit?
That’s why I wouldn’t recommend it, but if you feel like it please do
