Just letting u all know

[QUOTE=Starkiller]
Well im from that soc and on behalf of our soc name(even though im relatively new to it) i would like to say that we are not like that at all :wise: , amd i think that if you have any problems with one of our members you should give us a feedback on the matter so we can discuss among ourselves… so sendaran just because one or 2 incidents happened doesnt mean that were a bad soc :silly2:
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Dont know what the other members in that soc are like and dont know where to find any of u.

[QUOTE=Starkiller]
but if it did happen then justice be served if it turned out to be a mistake… well lets say it will be an injustice :frowning: thank you for hearing my part of the defense of our soc name :slight_smile:
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And this is no mistake from gsm4all - He told me that he would do it everytime he sees me cuz I dont wanna team up with him. So no mistake there just pre harassment - and got pictures if support need them but i guess they keep a log.

[QUOTE=Tigerman]
If a n00b come running by with a tail, yelling for help, sure ill shoot the creatures and hope they have some loot.

If someone came over to me “spamming” me with mobs and asking me to team up? Someone already noticed what id do.. He got his account locked..
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Total agree with u and I hope that this person dont get to do it again.

Well i usualy hang around PA alot.. but most of us are mining constantly so no fixed spot… i only make a run per day so im most of the time around town :slight_smile:

i dont think we have discussed this issue aruond there… i went off before i heard about this thread… perhaps they already reached some kind of decision on this ocurrence… so please dont destroy our soc name for the action of one of our recent “purchases” :wise:

But i trust that our soc leader will hear of this or any of other responsible avatar on my soc

so if you want to speak to me or any of the other soc menbers ill be glad to point out where they can be located and perhaps a reunion of the full soc for this discussion :wise: :rolleyes:

usually, the soc leader comes and speaks for salvguarding his soc’s reputation.

And he would… but the fact hes been away on a few days absence he still doesnt know about this recent event

we are currently trying to decide what to do about this occurence

i believe he has already been expeled from the soc but were still gonna talk to him about this
just to hear his side since we abruptedly kicked him as soon as we heard of this :wise:

[QUOTE=Lady Wolf]
Just wrote a support case and figured that more people should know what kind of person gsm4all is.

Just about 15 minutes or so ago this happen to me (around 17.30 MA time).
I was out hunting Atrox south of Ithaca when gsm3all (Captian of the soc. called TuSaLuSa) desided the hatefully make more mobs attack me. First he make them mobs run after him and then he stands behind me so the mob will attack me instead and telling me to team up with him or else he will keep doing that.

It is not the first time he has done that to me. It happen a couple of month ago when I was out hunting south/west of Zychion. And there he also told me that I should make a team with him or else he would keep doing that.

And I guess he will keep doing that everytime he sees me hunting. Hope MA does something about it.

So if u see him u know what kind of person he is. I’ve seen him a lot in pa and twin trading and only met him hunting 2 times. I’m getting pretty sick of him and his behavor.
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Hi Lady Wolf,

I’m BlackMind from TuSaLuSa.
I just read this thread and kicked him from the soc.
He no longer belongs to TuSaLuSa.

Every member of our soc has the responsibility to maintain our good name and should behave accordantly.

Regards,

BalckMind

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ooooops aparently hes back :wink:

[QUOTE=BlackMind]
Hi Lady Wolf,

I’m BlackMind from TuSaLuSa.
I just read this thread and kicked him from the soc.
He no longer belongs to TuSaLuSa.

Every member of our soc has the responsibility to maintain our good name and should behave accordantly.

Regards,

BalckMind
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This wasn’t my idea or an attempt to give ur soc a bad rep. I only wrote what soc he was from so that more people would know who I was talking about and be aware what he is about. The first time he harassed me I didn’t do nothing about it - we can all have a bad day and say somethings we dont really mean but since that is not the case I desided to write a support case and this thread - hoping for his behavior to stop.

None i my soc thinks bad about TuSaLuSa - its just him I’ve meet.

[QUOTE=Starkiller]
Well im from that soc and on behalf of our soc name(even though im relatively new to it) i would like to say that we are not like that at all
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Starkiller i know your soc, and some of the members are my friends and one is my real life friend. I know you are not a bad soc, but has i answered to one of your colonels, imo your soc reputation will be damaged unless you deal strongly with situations like these..

Its not the first complain i read about this soc, but i know you arent all like that, its up to your leaders to clean your soc reputation, as i hope they will.

I’ve seen that he got kicked, and that seems wise. Altough i know a case of scamming in your soc that didnt got this resolution :(, so things like this break your soc reputation.

I hope ppl understand that the whole soc cant pay for one member’s behavior, its how they deal with it that we must see :slight_smile:

Regards

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Miss lady Wolf its no problem to say these things… quite in fact were happy you did this remark on him since we never knew about it…but wed prefer that we could discuss these things head to head before jumping to conclusions i myself didnt like this act at all, but since i didnt knew anything of this nature i tried to just defend a bit the soc name since the leader didnt knew at the time of this

and aparently because of this problem we found out more prblms within our soc… were are going to have a meeting soon wether to discuss these issues :wise:

i apologise and i think i can speak for the whole soc (if Mind doesnt mind this time) when we apologise for these behaviors… though we DID not encourage these acts at all, and didnt even knew about them… we were caught with our guards down and didnt even saw it coming…

we apologise once again for this :frowning:

[QUOTE=Starkiller]
…but wed prefer that we could discuss these things head to head before jumping to conclusions i myself didnt like this act at all, but since i didnt knew anything of this nature i tried to just defend a bit the soc name since the leader didnt knew at the time of this

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Since I dont know any of u where should I have found u?
And jumping at my conclusion - he did it twice and telling me that he will keep doing it…think thats enough to make a conclusion.

true that… the best way for you to reach us was the forum

and thats why we dealt it as soon as we heard from this… and this thread unveiled even more issues regarding to another member… were going to discuss this asap

thank you for divulging this… i think Blackmind doesnt mind being me the one speaking in TuSaLuSa’s defence this time :boxer:

we just hope this doesnt happen again within our soc ranks… :frowning:

Left to pass some time so that it for i speak… Nothing of that LADY WOLF said it was truth ha exception to run for it with 2 atrox because I did not have ammo! My society TUSALUSA removed me without having heard me! I find that not and worthy of a society although to continue to give with all members except to me of the SABINO! Good LUCK for all

[QUOTE=Lady Wolf]
Just wrote a support case and figured that more people should know what kind of person gsm4all is.

Just about 15 minutes or so ago this happen to me (around 17.30 MA time).
I was out hunting Atrox south of Ithaca when gsm4all (Captian of the soc. called TuSaLuSa) desided the hatefully make more mobs attack me. First he make them mobs run after him and then he stands behind me so the mob will attack me instead and telling me to team up with him or else he will keep doing that.

It is not the first time he has done that to me. It happen a couple of month ago when I was out hunting south/west of Zychion. And there he also told me that I should make a team with him or else he would keep doing that.

And I guess he will keep doing that everytime he sees me hunting. Hope MA does something about it.

So if u see him u know what kind of person he is. I’ve seen him a lot in pa and twin trading and only met him hunting 2 times. I’m getting pretty sick of him and his behavor.
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I could only HOPE that he tries that with me.. sorry about that, if you need help just yell. What he is doing is wrong and he should be punished. Lets form a hunting team and get him. MA should suspend his game time for atleast a month!

[QUOTE=gsm4all]
Left to pass some time so that it for i speak… Nothing of that LADY WOLF said it was truth ha exception to run for it with 2 atrox because I did not have ammo! My society TUSALUSA removed me without having heard me! I find that not and worthy of a society although to continue to give with all members except to me of the SABINO! Good LUCK for all
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You do NOT want to meet me in any Pvp zone - period.

Enjoy your stay on Calypso retard :rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=gsm4all]
Left to pass some time so that it for i speak… Nothing of that LADY WOLF said it was truth ha exception to run for it with 2 atrox because I did not have ammo! My society TUSALUSA removed me without having heard me! I find that not and worthy of a society although to continue to give with all members except to me of the SABINO! Good LUCK for all
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So thats why u tell me to team up with u or u will keep on doing that - put mobs on me, give me decay and hope I cant handle the mobs and maybe get killed? And is that why I’ve got screenies of what u said? And is that why u did it twice?

I think not!

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Got an answer from support.

2005-11-11 MindArk Support:
Thank you for reporting, we will have our eyes on that avatar, please let us know if it happens again.
/Regards

So if gsm4all desides to continue this behaivor towards me or anyone else I guess support knows what has to be done.

Left to pass some time so that it for i speak… Nothing of that LADY WOLF said it was truth ha exception to run for it with 2 atrox because I did not have ammo! My society TUSALUSA removed me without having heard me! I find that not and worthy of a society although to continue to give with all members except to me of the SABINO! Good LUCK for all

I believe your side of the story wasnt even considered to be heard gsm4all, since it has NO possible way out of it…

i DO believe it was a rash behavior to just kick you as soon as we heard these news however…

but the question is: why? :confused:

you even gloated a bit that day saying you were putting some reputation into the soc name… when i heard of this i though it was something nice and stuff but when i saw that red mark on the thread…

im completely embarassed to hear that you STILL deny those actions… and that is why they kicked you out

i wasnt in the meeting for personal affairs reason but from what they told me you didnt regret doing it… :frowning: wich is a shame

and we did not cut relations with you… but some of us feel like not talking to you after this event… i myself am questioning wether i should trust you again… sorry dude but you only lost with your stupidity :loco:

I’ve got screenies of what u said

hum and by the way miss Lady Wolf… if you had some screenies why didnt you gave them to us for we to make a more efective judgment :wink: it is of no matter now that the case is closed but at the time they wouldve helped quite alot…

Regards to all
Starkiller
TuSaLuSa

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Well, everything was fine until i saw the reply of sendaran. I mean, stuff like that (mob-dropping) happens lots of times, sometimes by accident, other times with a clear intention of annoying a person. Last time it happened to me was near troy, i was mining and a guy named barmy gardner something of the 8 decided to drag some atrax and drop them next to me, just because our resource veins crossed and he claimed “he was there first” although my vein was already about 12 claims long, and pretty much visible since i rarely drill or mine out stuff until i don’t have the vein finished. Anyway, just breed deep, relax and find a way to deal with it. Either remove armor and let yourself die to let him deal with the mobs he disturbed or kill them like Dr Udo would do… and you may even go back later on, and do the same to him ;). Either way, this is not too annoying, except if you’re a miner and have a claim near the spot where the guy dropped u the mobs. Now about gsm4all. As far as I know, he never scammed anyone, he does a lot of trade ingame, buying cheap and selling for a bit more, like all traders. He has a few well-known and respected suppliers that I won’t quote here of course. He did some begging in the past, but since he entered our society, he stopped with that. About that particular behaviour against Lady Wolf, if this is true, then what can i say, sometimes he smokes pot and shit happens. Or perhaps it was excess of cafein, not sure about that one. Or even teenager hormones. Anyway, he was kicked out of our soc. Looking back at this whole situation, now, this whole thing seemed kinda childish “oh, mama, look, i have a booboo”-like. Gsm4all chose to have a bad-boy behaviour. As a noob, what can he do? Certainly not pk others. Scamming? Nope. Mob-droping.. aah, why not?- he thought perhaps. Now why don’t we all complain when a certain player has an “evil” behaviour? Why not complain when someone is pk’d in pvps or in amethera, why not complain if someone claimed a resource first after a race-to-the-deposit, why not complain when you’re having a bad day, no loots drop and a guy appears and mob-drop on you? Now, does it sound ridiculous? (Scamming of course is a total different thing, and always condemnable). And if the guy says he’s gonna do it again? Good thing he even warned you, now you know how to behave when he’s around.. do it first to him for example. Now does it deserve a kick out of a society? How many would be kicked of other socs too? In my point of view, the only bad thing here is that although he did know about this post, he never replied (on time) or try to defend himself, and let the soc take the hit and bad rep, without regrets… that’s the only “crime” here in my point of view, and that is why i agreed with the expultion, because, as an adult as you are (or as I think you are, Lady Wolf) you should always be able to deal with that kind of harrasment. So many bad things exist in real life, so an in-game “crisis” seems meaningless.
Now about sendaran’s comments. I find particularly disturbing when i have to face some vague acusations like that one that try to drag in the mud a whole soc. It is pretty obvious that this person does not know us. TuSaLuSa is a soc that deserves the same respect as any other soc around. Most of us have far better stuff to do than dragging mobs around, except when trying to escape after finding out we just ran out of ammo, hehe. In that case, we run to a tower or into water. Anyway, generally, we are too busy teaching noobs/mining/hunting/trading and sometimes crafting to even bother to annoy anyone. Some people know me and I’m sure you won’t hear any complaints of them, as you won’t find any complaints against the vast majority of the TuSaLuSa members (cheers to Tom the buzz Christensen, by the way, who I saw in this thread).
About Clansman’s comment: thanks, but if it is the way u figured out to help us, then u can stop. About the so-called scam, we both know the person involved was not in our society by that time, and we only recently knew the problem. This is not the place to discuss it, but as it wasn’t an in-game deal, I would not call it a scam. It is, however, a serious matter, and a more complex situation than you think. Simply kicking out a person will not solve the problems, most of the time, as in this case.

Leonardo Naifas Anaconda
TuSaLuSa

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I should once again remind myself that I shouldn’t post stuff in a hurry, things are bound to go the wrong way. One of the reasons I don’t post that much is that people are bound missunderstand stuff (and I seem to be affected by a curse to see that happen all the time)…

First of all, what I said wasn’t meant to be an attempt to throw dirt on the whole soc. It was meant to be more of a “heads up” call to point out stuff that is happening. And as I can read from the posts here this thread has had a wake up effect. You have obviously noticed the problem and acted on it and I give you full respect for that. When someone runs about doing his/her bussines in this virtual world we have grown so fond of with a soc tag above the head other people notice it. One “black sheep” can draw down a group of saints if the saints don’t notice the sheep’s doings. If you are a part of a society, you carry the name everywhere you go and everything you do is done under that name. So any society should make sure that the people in there understand the responsibility that comes with the name above their heads. And should anyone from TuSaLuSa be interested in the name of the other person I mentioned, I am more than willing to provide the info with the screenshots I have. I intentionally didn’t post those screenshots publicly.

But there is one thing on which I must strongly disagree with you Naifas. Your comment about how there are bigger problems out there etc. so we all should just ignore those little problems. That’s the lamest excuse in the world and I’ve grown so sick and tired of that! Did you ever think about where those big problems come from? You would be surprised to notice how many “big problems” have come out of something small that people just decided to ignore in their arrogance. “It’s not worth the effort” is not a good reason to not deal with something when it is possible before it gets out of hand. If we have rules, we go by the rules.

Now I know more people could get upset, but I have my opinions and I stand by them.