Not sure I get what you’re saying, of course tt return is influenced by HR. Subscribing to see how you further develop this.
I do not see how this is possible..
Good luck 
Zone 2 (has 4% taxes)
Ores are always done with 5 depth enh cause of the ruga that can be found there.
For enm I do not use enh, that’s why I separate the runs
Yesterday Jan 22th Zone 2 [COLOR=“#008000”]TT return 161,47%
Zone 2 again [COLOR=“#008000”]TT return 102,70%
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/3/8/8/8/screenshot_-_23-jan-19_7_23_44_am.jpg
HR wasn’t that good so I decided to check how the HR of Enm was on the same spot
HR was also very low (I stop when going under 25% HR for Enm) and I was thinking if this was because I did the ENM run straight after I finished the ore run (future will tell). Drop 85 gave me the XII
Zone 2 again : [COLOR=“#008000”]TT return 142,02% 1 x XII
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/3/8/8/8/23-jan-19_8_59_01_am_ti_enm.jpg
Average TT return so far for ores : [COLOR=“#008000”]132,09%
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Some research, tips from friendly miners that work the same way and brains
If you are in an area with a very low hitrate, does that mean that the market is flooded with the resource/s that the area provides ?
Randomness should always be the first thing to consider before anything else. When you’re below 100 drops, there’s no statistical difference between a 20% and 40% hit rate as I pointed out in my comment about confidence intervals in the post that started this. Sometimes you’re just going to get a string of NRFs even if the true average hit rate for that area and time is high. Basically, don’t assume a connection when you can’t rule out random sampling effects.
Then there’s the question that’s more up in the air of how swings in the loot pool affect the true average hit rate, if that’s split up by resource type, etc.
Those two come in to play before even looking at resources currently “out of the ground”. It could affect hit rate, but it can also just mean the other resources become more common in place of the “missing” resource. I don’t have great data on that, but trends I’ve seen don’t really indicate specific resource availability and hit rate are correlated.
also something i noticed is that the higher the hitrate the lower the average MU.
and the higher the hitrate the lower the rate of multipliers. meaning when i get tons of NRF and a hitrate of 20 to 25% then thats the usually the time when the big global / hof comes. i very very rarely get a huge multi in a good hitrate streak.
and sometimes you can get unlucky:
100 drops planet side - 19 claims - 51.2% return
4 claims within the first 50 drops, the other 15 in the remaining 50 drops.
I call that: Black day. Im happy it don’t happen much, at least if you do unamped and not indoor. Some times it just need to change the place, server, planet.
In those 35-40% and higher HR’s I’m mining Typo, Alic, ganga, gazz, duru, redu, ruga mostly I get a multi (if I get 1) in the cheaper stuff that is also there, like blaus, nexus or magerian.
I “assume” that a multiplier comes avatar based, so you get something like a bonus for the TT you spend but I never count on that.
I play on safe mining, so when HR starts dropping I leave.
When I get a HR of 20-25% in enm I stop mining, if going under 30% for ores, I stop also. It’s useless to keep dropping when there is nothing there.
For the moment I’m very happy with mining 2,0 and think it’s very stable!!!
Cool..
I will remember that. Statistics is not really my thing…
Thanks
Good you mentioned that ^^
So here I did a borderline run in zone 2 with a terrible HR
[COLOR=“#FF0000”]TT return 71,32%
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/3/8/8/8/24-jan-19_7_28_02_am.jpg
Why did I kept going …
Normally from 100 drops I get (average) 7,75% gazz and 16,05% duru. Now in this bad run I didn’t get any gaz at all and only 4% duru . All other ores where normal % in TT return.
My normal HR here is between 36-39%
I might try another run later today to see if this stays the same.
If this is the case, you might see gaz and duru go up in % on auction soon.
EDIT : If this goes bad again, I’ll just avoid zones in the next days that have gaz and duru !!!
Same terrible HR so I stopped after 25 drops and again this time no gaz and no duru
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/3/8/8/8/24-jan-19_9_52_35_am_2nd_run.jpg
While HR certainly does help, the correlation is fairly weak.
186 runs logged since 8-Dec:
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/4/2/2/2/hrtt_thumb.jpg
(removed one extreme outlier of 2000+%)
(note my runs are of different size and often quite short - ~98 PED on average)
edit: and as you see it’s possible to be sub-100% even with 40%
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Thank you very much Haruto
No worries my runs are mostly about 100 ped also
And yes, agree, even with a HR of 40+% it is still possible to get -100% in TT return, but so far it didn’t happen that much.
You both really giving me the desire to mine again and share my results as well ! Keep the feedbacks going, it’s really nice to follow !
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Are you saying that each server has it’s own resource density ??? (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more)
1 is good timing, other is bad timing and yes, density’s might be different or altered by MA/economics (I think)
the questions is: when do you decide to switch areas. you say when your hitrate is below 30% but when your first drop doesnt hit anything it is below 30%. you immediately switch?
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That is something you need to try out
For me its like :
first 10 drops …40% wow nice HR, maybe I’ll use an amp
first 10 drops … 33% HR hmm seems ok
first 10 drops … 30% HR let’s do another 10 and see
first 10 drops … less than 30 % HR let’s leave and try somewhere else
EDIT :
another hint …
first 10 drops … 20-25% HR … wow some 1 just mined here not that long ago (presses T)
1 Day later (but I’m sure the weekend will bring it down again because of weekend miners/undercutters)
https://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/gallery/files/5/3/8/8/8/screenshot_-_25-jan-19_8_52_05_am.jpg