help deo learn to hunt

Entropia Universe Professions Hunting
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so, following someones advise, i need help with my hunting style.

so i figure id start with why i need help.

all i do is lose money, i have profited, after repairs, maybe4 times in the last 2 months, and i usually have about a 30% return after repairs, if im lucky, i hit 50%.

my hunting skills are :
hp-113
aim-1521
combat reflexes-1977
HG-2702
inflict ranged damage-1559
markmanship-2305
rifle-1940
weapons handling-1897
evade-1274
blp tech-2076
laser tech-3056

i deposited $280 about 2 weeks ago, to buy an ml-35, the only gun i use right now. i used the extra 350 ped for ammo, lost that within 6 hours of playing. sold all materials and extra guns and crap for more ammo, another 200 ped gone next day.

then, i deposited $100 again 2 days ago, bought 2 abe lasers, and a scope, repaired all, about 260 ped i think total, used rest for ammo, and that is gone already, so im rather unhappy and think i need help adjusting my hunting style.

so now my hunting style…

i like to grab 20k ammo, and go out alone in my rascal, not much of a team player.

i hunt allo mature-dom, esto young-dom, trox young-guard, bots (whatever i can find), and argo young-scout. then if any smaller or bigger mobs around those, ill kill those just to clear the way, fauc, molisk, longu, merp, sab, and so on.

i like to stay in 1 area for the full hunt, usually south of ithica or cornith for trox, and south of limbidian for allos and estos, then north west of twin for argos, tho i havent been goin for argos since ive been useing the ml-35.

im generally getting 4-5 no loots, then 1 ok loot, 4-8 ped for most i hunt, tho these last couple of months, i have had up to 20 no loots in a row, then get a couple of pec on a trox.

so im really confused on how some people can keep profiting, and i can do nothin but lose, is that what my avatar is destined for? should i just make a new one and transfer my noob skills over to the new one? and see if that one is destined to win now and then?

i dont miss to many shots, with the ml-35, im generally hitting around 50 damage, a few shots less, most more, and sometimes i swear the lag is killin me

so if ya need more info on my skills or style, lemme know, cause i think im done hunting till someone gives me a better way to do it, ive tried downstepping to snables, and cant even profit on them with an ep-17 and no armor, i tried maffoids, but never seem to loot them, tried ambuls, same problem as maffoids. i tried different times of day and night, all different areas i like to hunt, 1 time i took 30k ammo and just ran out in the middle of nowhere, and that was my biggest loss killin multiple types and sizes of mobs along the way.

im stuck, either MA doest like me, or i just have a crappy avatar.

so if ya have any ideas, lemme know please

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I don’t realy know about this one! Hard times!

Do you use a handgund to finish the mobs off or do you use the ML-35 all the way? If so, maybe you should try like a Karma killer or a 2875 just for close combat to avoid over-kill.

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well even if she is using her ml to shoot small things like saba’s it shouldnt be 30% return only :\ (would be 40% or so)
i try to hunt as economical as i can and i still lose every hunt, so imo its not the style u hunt nowadays -_-

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Try scaling down. try a MK2 instead of the ML35 or the new Opalo TT gun with an amp. I find i do best when i’m hunting in an area where my armour is good enough to keep me alive for 2 kills but i need to fap to keep hunting.

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ya, i gave up on the switch to pistol, wasnt seeing any difference in that either, and i really wanna avoid goin back to lowend mobs useing the opala, but that may be the answer, that way atleast 100 usd in ammo will last a while, lol

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well, not sure if it helps, but, ill tell ya what i use:

mk4
pixie
shogun (armor depends on mob)
emt 2600

against: trox, trax, drones, argonout.

no amp…if ya amp it it will be easier. but i can handle trox provider in pixie, with that setup. and that was before 7.7

so, if ya hunt a bit low maturity of these, you shouldnt loose that much.
i usually come close to break even after 400 ped run.

most of the time, 2 times up, 2 times down.

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ya, i just learned all about amps, better jsut to use a bigger gun, i looted an a103 a few days ago, so i repared it, stuck it on the opallo, bought 4k ammo, (all i had left), and went corn hunting, i was shoked, i was about 10 peds ahead by time i was done, then i went to the repair terminal, 18 ped repair for that amp, its now in the tt machine, lol

it wasnt my repair bill with the ml-35 that was killin me, cause it wasnt too bad considering the emt-2600 decay it replaced, and cut in half, what kills me the biggest is just the loots, i rarely get 50% of the ammo i bought back as loot, then add decay ontop of it, and im screwed.

maybe ill just wait for the advertisments to start up to hunt again, and see if they drop anymoney into the loot pool, its just been to insane of a loss for me lately, and i cant afford $100 a week to go out and hunt in a game. hopefully they get bud as an investor, theyll throw millions out to 500k people sittin at home playin a video game, and everyone can win some, lol

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well from my experience the thing to do is hunt VERY long..

means hunt in a big timeframe… with a ml-35 you hunt in a very short timeframe.

like last weeks i have been whipping and i dont think i was doing good due to the hi min damage it had but if if i repaired it ~80 ped it took like 2-3h to waste it..

if you hunt small stuff 3h straight your bound to get a good loot.

i have the same problem as you with medium players mobs: ambu, trox, maff, big esto allo

if they only loot after 5 kills dont hunt em…3kill then loot is def oki

also go for opalo skilling the 103 is not a good choice for me too
i rather use a 102 for skilling runs or if u aim at slightly bigger stuff use 104-106 ,all amps have 4.6 dam/pec so do thecounting…

good side is that with opalo your ammo will last very long maybe buy a 2nd one for finishing off currently that gun beats about any other gun till mk2 anyway

anyone else got an advise for an ml user?

also are all your defensive skills at sam level as evade…

those matter much more then your combat skills actually ?

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Maybe you need a change of scenery ? Try hunting where you haven’t hunted before.

One of my favorites is to go to a TP and then run the longest distance into the wilderness…

It may help. It’s a matter of luck, so try changing some of the variables…

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I hate to break it to you; but your not any where close to using an ml 35 at that skill level..

To be honest I have over 5.5 k rifle and maybe im not skilled to use it efficiently.

So your first mistake is trying to use that gun or anything like it to break even :frowning:

Skills are an very important part of PE and should be.

Your very new to PE and can’t expect to break even, you got to put the work into your skills, yes at your lvl there will be and should be loses :frowning:
You got to think long term about PE, invest in your skills.

PS: that does not mean sell you ml35.. that an good gun but is not right for your skill levels now, keep that gun its an good investment into the future when you do have the skills to use it :slight_smile:

PS2: The loot pools are kinda low for some reason.. well at least on average. The ml35 has an huge ammo burn about 18 if you use this to kill the mob from a-z with an low loot pool you can’t expect to come out a head. My modified mercenary has this problem to high of an ammo burn and really needs global’s to break even.

I would recommend finding an low burn gun to do most of the mob when the average loots are low. You might have to tank more or have less damage :frowning:

Wanted to add skills so you can have somthing to compare it to, and im not all that great myself.

BLP Weaponry Technology

5239 Exceptional Grade 5

Laser Weaponry Technology

4467 Advanced Grade 9

other info

Aim : 4366 Advanced Grade 6

Inflict Ranged Damage 3357 Inspiring Grade 8

Marksmanship 4699 Remarkable grade 7

Ranged Damage assessment 3934 Professional Grade 7

Rifle 5543 Amazing Grade 5

Hand Gun (pistol’a) 3175 Great Grade 9 {needs work}

Now with that in mind, its hard for me to break even now also.

Another tip.. use the right gun for the right mob.. dont over kill like an snable knowing the average pay back is pecs with an gun that uses xyz per shot :frowning:

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Your humble nature is refreshing, Nicole - but don’t sell yourself short. “amazing” and “inspiring” are just that…

impressive skills!

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[QUOTE=nicoledantrag]

Your very new to PE and can’t expect to break even, you got to put the work into your skills, yes at your lvl there will be and should be loses :frowning:
You got to think long term about PE, invest in your skills.

PS: that does not mean sell you ml35.. that an good gun but is not right for your skill levels now, keep that gun its an good investment into the future when you do have the skills to use it :slight_smile:

PS2: The loot pools are kinda low for some reason.. well at least on average. The ml35 has an huge ammo burn about 18 if you use this to kill the mob from a-z with an low loot pool you can’t expect to come out a head. My modified mercenary has this problem to high of an ammo burn and really needs global’s to break even.

Another tip.. use the right gun for the right mob.. dont over kill like an snable knowing the average pay back is pecs with an gun that uses xyz per shot :frowning:
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Hey Nicole thanks for breaking it down like that! I was always wondering about the whole match the gun with the skill but had a tough time understanding how 2k rifle was different form 6k rifle. It seems like the min damge is barely noticable.

Also one thing I think is wierd is that since 7.6 I miss more ofter with my rifle now. I mean like 4-6 in a row! I mean with ANY rifle or even Pistol. My Rifle is like 2.5k.

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[QUOTE=Digit]
Hey Nicole thanks for breaking it down like that! I was always wondering about the whole match the gun with the skill but had a tough time understanding how 2k rifle was different form 6k rifle. It seems like the min damge is barely noticable.

Also one thing I think is wierd is that since 7.6 I miss more ofter with my rifle now. I mean like 4-6 in a row! I mean with ANY rifle or even Pistol. My Rifle is like 2.5k.
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Hello :wink:

[I]* oh did want to say skills has to do somthing; when I frist was an noob and you could kill artox at the rig from staying on the wall, my frist artox kill with an 147 took 1,000 ammo.

  • after skilling up alot it cost me 300 ammo to kill that same artox. That 7 peds less.[/I]

Well I think one thing is seeing what they tell you your min damage is, and another thing seeing it for yourself. I don’t think they are really the same numbers

To be honest I believe I do more better minium damage with my mod 117 compared to my ml35me.. Not to mention the insane skills the mod 117 gives me compared to ml35me.

now when you look at it that the mod 117 with Dante does 93 max damage for only 13 ammo burn and the ml35me about 21 ammo burn for 118 max damage. That is an difference of 8 pecs (ammo) per shot, not counting the decay. For me the mod 117 seems to average on the high end of the damage scale, while the ml35me seems to average lower ???

a lot of time I hit really bad with my ml35me compared to my mod 117 and think to self lol could have got the same hit for 13 ammo burn instead of 21 :frowning:

Now keep in mind if you say you hit for 50 damage only, thats so much waste of pecs / ammo per shot of dmage your not getting .

Right now I use my ml35me as an pull gun /pk gun.
I don’t find it practical to use on mob’s much, and will not kill an mob with it from beginning to end.

What I would recommend if you want to stay in blp that is an AS-147 Strakhov or for better economy go to lasers and get like an mk 2/5 depending on the mob you want to hunt.. Note I think the mk5 is high on ammo burn, but for big mobs might be needed. The 147 is nice but decays a lot :frowning:

Now I don’t think the min. damage that they give you now are 100% accurate picture, used to be that the ml35 series required a lot of skills to master, and that the guns like the starkhov lines needed less to average better. So when they used to say use the guns with in your skill level of play this is what they meant, of course this comes from having been familiar with that gun because ma kept this secret.

Note: This is just my opinions and observations, I have not scientifically tested this but kinda based more on my personal hunting experiences.

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all good info, i dropped useing the ml-35 for now, wait till i got more skills, so i picked up the tt rifle, i dont get as many skills, but i still get some, and so far, i have been coming close to breaking even, even profited one time, and it is a much longer hunt with it, 10k ammo last a long time with 2 ammo burn, lol, i dropped the amp on it due to decay, its cheaper just to take the damage on rascal, and so far, i havent hunted anything that required me to fap at all, so min repair bill is saving me

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my first hunting trip profitale after more than 1 month (not counting globals and hof, just average return) was with tt opalo. I used to hunt with ep40 merc until i noticed that my average dmg is at 50%. that means 4 pecs in the wind at each shot. at 10k shots, is 400 peds.

i gave up hunting any medium mobs, i hunt exclusively exarosaurus and daikibas around fort troy with opalo. maybe high end exa with opalo and a104.

as for medium mobs, i prefere to drown them or whatever if i meet them while mining.

of course, a part of the decision was based on skilling. another part is the loot. if i can get loot 1 ped either hunting atroxes or exarosaurus and if average loot on argonaut is 30 pec, then i am not staying in to finance some guy’s hof.

so, my plan looks like low mobs until rifle and hg higher than 4k. yes, gonna take much time. but low expanses. and when i will be rich, i will get back on skilling longblades, coz seems to not exist profitable long-blade in game for a newbie at 4000 LB.

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i been goin after argos, and with repairs and all, i have been profiting my last 4 hunts now, not much, 4-5 peds, but im not bitchin about that, im lovin it, i got my first tp chip today, just a lesser, but still my first, so gotta skill i guess.

i have been useing opallo with no amp since nicole told me i was a total noob, lol. and rascal armor, havent had to fap but 2 times in the last 4 hunts, and my rascal repair bill is about 20 ped after 20k ammo shot, and that is alot of shooting with the opallo, and a lot of getting hit, cant tell ya how much, lol, specially when ya jump in the middle of 5 argos with 2 adults, that screen gets orange real quick, lol

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opalo on argonauts seem a little underpowered weapon, because of their recovering hp ratio. maybe a little amp, an a104?:wink: (full tt is like 40 peds and it lasts around same qty of ammo, 40 peds, but damn them last alot, coz opalo + a104 is 3 ammo burn).

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[QUOTE=deo]
i been goin after argos, and with repairs and all, i have been profiting my last 4 hunts now, not much, 4-5 peds, but im not bitchin about that, im lovin it, i got my first tp chip today, just a lesser, but still my first, so gotta skill i guess.

i have been useing opallo with no amp since nicole told me i was a total noob, lol. and rascal armor, havent had to fap but 2 times in the last 4 hunts, and my rascal repair bill is about 20 ped after 20k ammo shot, and that is alot of shooting with the opallo, and a lot of getting hit, cant tell ya how much, lol, specially when ya jump in the middle of 5 argos with 2 adults, that screen gets orange real quick, lol
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:rofl: well good to hear your profitting now :wink:

Watch out for matching the gun to the regeneration rate of the mob, but since you are happy and doing ok might be an good fit :slight_smile: