So say hypothetically the Australian government banned all travel to say the US due to some disease outbreak for 1 month and they said they would compensate all airlines, would that mean me as a rich guy who owns his own jet i also get compensated seeing i cant fly there now? even though i never fly passengers to the US and basically wont lose anything anyway.
That is what i kinda meant.
p.s. i dont own my own jet that was way more than hypothetical :
And spod yes very true
Well this might be splitting hairs a little but yes there is potential for the âpotential lossâ to be the same for all but in actual fact if the other 60 or so hangar owners hadnât intended to fly at all as they havent for the last however long then the reality is that the âpotential lossâ is not equal.
As for why pilots and no one else i guess its because they can tell exactly what to give back but in total fairness i have to agree with your edit.
yes i agree a lot of people are gettign screwed over some way more than others, CND is a shocker now
I think this is just ridiculousâŚ
Compensating one player group for downtime and not compensating another ?
Are they going to compensate ?
Beauticians who canât use their Parlors ?
Avatars who only team hunt ?
Land Owners ?
Anyone else who is affected by downtimeâŚ
Bullshit⌠MA looking after those with large investments in game⌠carry on to do so.. soon theyâll be the only people you have left to play after you Alienate those who canât afford a ÂŁ450 ($600) Graphics card. Whoâs gunna pay you your much needed decay for revenue then, 90% of em donât even play anymore !!
Iâve defended many MA actions in my time, but canât justify this for shitâŚ
I VOTE GIVE ALL MONEY TO JOD
~JOD FOR CALYPSO PRESIDENT VU 10.0~
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but what about them pilots that rent hangers? they are still copping a loss.
Storage terminals have been introduced to CND.
Storage is planet-specific, and you will only get access to items placed in storage on that particular planet. If you are at Club Neverdie, you will not have access to items in storage on Calypso, and vice versa.
Hm, I donât get the point with the limitation. Either there is no storage at all, or the storage is shared. Why? Simply because when youâre going between you can empty the storage at CND and put in storage at planet. I guess this is just to confuse.
A one way ticket is 25 PED. This fee will be distributed among the hangar owners when civilian space travel service is reinstated. NOTE: This is a temporary solution.
Great. :rolleyes: I guess that is just the clarification we non-hangar owners was waiting for. On the other hand itâs a good opportunity for a travel to CND, it might be a long time until next visit when service is back to normal and travel cost will go up the same way prices of weapons has done since VU got live, now when the ârecommended retail priceâ has been set.
tut tut⌠compensating one player group for inactive services and not another⌠surely this isnât investment value nepotism âŚ
You can always vote with your money on this issue, too. I can count on one hand the times iâve gone to CND. If nobody travels there this is going to be moot anywayâand from the reports iâve seen, thereâs not much point in going.
I would think so given that taxes are still present on the LAs.
How they have done it is fair.
Who are you or anyone else on this thread to decide who the active hangar owners are and what criteria should be used to determine that?
Just because you donât see all the hangar owners in Twin, doesnât mean to say the hangar isnât in use for people other than just the owner.
Are you sure?
Think again. The implementation of the TP was announced before any mention of paying hangar owners.
They had therefore made arrangements for those you call general players to be able to travel to and from CND, and I might add, instantly and without any of the potential time issues that can usually occur.
I would hope that rent periods are extended accordingly for a start.
And whoâs to say that if problems with shops continue, that shop owners wonât get something from MA/FPC?
Itâs not downtime in the context you are using it.
None of those you mention have had MA/FPC put in place a temporary means of performing the said function that bypasses those who would normally carry it out.
The PED split is now and was not before. Nothingâs against those inactive hangar players to log on in VU 10 and start again. But now they are blocked on that opportunity. Imo MA is doing the right thing.
First, hangar owners will get money doing nothing (=not spending any PEDs). For instance no oil consumed, no time spent. They can be offline for two weeks. Also, they get the 25 peds âunsplitâ. Normally pilots use up 10 ped/each for oil and decay, now they get that money aswell.
Secondly, generally 25 peds have been seen as a high price for a bad service (=having to wait for last seat to get filled, no pilots on planet because pilots dropped off passengers at CP and then refusing to go down unless all seats are filled).
My first thought of the 25 ped TP was there now would be a competing service. To set a roof on price and to keep people from waiting too long.
Then there are groups who donât get any compensation att all for losses;
And, strangely enough, prices on things like weapons is going up. I didnât check FAPs; UR-125 was rarish enough and started to become a reseller item the week before the âimpactâ.
If you mean landgrab lands, I have not received any taxes in vu10.0 and I used to get them daily. However, Iâm not sure if itâs the tax distribution that is broken, or that since mobs donât loot on landgrab laâs and you canât claim mining claims on them, there simply hasnât been enough tax generated for a payout. And I doubt MA will compensate us with part of the tax from privately owned LAâs and a % of the loot from untaxed areas, that may now be receiving more activity. 
Just pull the reins back a little there.
I dont for a second presume to be anyone to decide what constitutes âactiveâ nor do I think any of us could including MA/FPC.
Infact I would have thought my post says exactly that.
They have done it as fair as they could but is it completely fair right across the board?
No I dont believe it is but Iâll say it again I dont see another solution.
That sounds wrong. The potential damage is done to all hangar owners. I donât see owning a hangar as an obligativity to fly with it standing there hour after hour, while just having it grants you the possibility to fly with it. So since the system disables that possibility in corpore, I donât see why that fee should be given to âactive pilotsâ.
Of which a bunch are nothing better than smugglers and blackmailers, btw.
buying lyst at 100,5%, refined please, and selling oa 103 at 150%, near window
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Very well said Woodger. 
I got a lot of items stuck in storage that I can not get out and use.
Because of this I can not go out and hunt, I however do understand itâs a
problem that will be solved in time.
So I will not ask for a compensation and no one should recieve Compensation.
For the hangar owners, grats, but what Mindark does here is complete BS.
Itâs like compensating all airports after 9/11 because all flights got grounded.
Including the closed and unused airports. :scratch2:
Itâs like compensating all airlines because flights got canceled after 9/11.
Iâm not aware the US goverment did anything like that.
If you own a hangar and have made losses you deal with your losses yourself.
You include the compensation in your fair price.
To Mindark, are you going to compensate all the sweaters too ? :scratch2:
We have bigger problems then this, your loosing tons of players who canât
get the game running properly.
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It was an opinion.. you know.. the thing all humans can have. Who are you to question anyones opinion No body tried to decide anything thats MAâs lookout is it not. But if i want to say somethign doesnt seem fair or anyone else wants to say something doesnt seem fair then they have that right just as you have that right to say it is fair.
Incorrect. It was always like this that majority were told to go fuck themselves and some were compensated
Personally I think that for first few weeks we should be able to test everything for free. Like test servers, test peds from MA (no depos or withdraval option), only skills carried on to final game (peds and items earned during the process going back to MA and we stay with assets we had before VU 10.0), but we will have to survive somehow with what we have online now.
this is a really good idea, aslong as they stopped ATHâs id be devastated if i got MA an ATH
Does this mean Pluto has hope of becoming a planet again? 
Only if Disney takes an interest in EUâŚ