Changing the way you play?

Entropia Universe Professions Hunting
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I’ve been thinking about posting this for a while now. I’ve been playing PE for around 18months ish. I’ve deposited (lots) and have moderate skills. I used to play quite a lot too.

I’ve HOF’ed, globaled, laughed and cried. Well ok, perhaps not cried.

Then VU6.3 came and the loot system changed, shock horror, we all panic. That’s died down now and we all have had plenty of time to get used to it.

The thing is (ok I’m getting to the point now) I play a lot less now. A huge amount less. I’m pretty sure this is due to the change in the looting system, as I’m mainly a hunter.

I personally find hunting less fun due to the constant annoyance of the no loot mobs, now I’m not whining here - I’m simply explaining why I dont like it.

So the question is, am I alone? Has anyone else noticed a sharp decline in the amount of hours per week that they spend hunting?

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I played alot less the first weeks after 6.3, but now I’m playing at full force again, mainly mining :smiley:
Perhaps focus less on the no loots and more on the fun, if you forget that you are using real money you’ll have a lot more fun :smiley:

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That’s quite true, until you run out of peds and you remember that it is indeed real money.

Focussing on the fun elements of the game is much more important to me than worrying about making money, I dont much care about the money, I want to enjoy the game. I just find hunting less fun now.

I suppose I should do some mining or crafting quick before MA impliments their upcoming changes to those systems too :wink:

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Ill say really quick what i think of the new system…
Pre 6.3: CC = 10K-11K
Post 6.3: CC = 1K…

Withdraw… dont wanna spend that kind of money on the game…

I still “play” (I run arround chatting) from time to time…

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I’m definitely playing a lot less than I used to. School kind of gets in the way but its hard to enjoy yourself in PE when all you do is watch money slip through your fingers. Thus, running around in town and chatting is usually what I limit myself to now :frowning:

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I’ve hunted more intensely since the loot changes, and have done better than with the previous system.

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Nice to know I’m not alone, and also good to hear from the “other side of the fence”. Avery, may I ask for a rough guess of how many hours per week you used to play compared to now?

I know it’s hard to judge but like I say, just guess. I’d say that I play between 1 and 6 hours per week now, and between 5 and 30 hours per week before.

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[QUOTE=Dirk]
That’s quite true, until you run out of peds and you remember that it is indeed real money.

Focussing on the fun elements of the game is much more important to me than worrying about making money, I dont much care about the money, I want to enjoy the game. I just find hunting less fun now.

I suppose I should do some mining or crafting quick before MA impliments their upcoming changes to those systems too :wink:
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Deposit when you’re drunk :stuck_out_tongue: Then you notice nothing.
Mining is allready the same the hunting system and i hope they won’t make mining like hunting used to be a tiny deposit on every bomb :mad:

The advantage of this new loot system is imo that it’s alot easier to spot the good hunting spots atm, just like it’s easy to spot a good mining spot.

And was it really more fun to get a lousy pec every loot before vu6.3? :confused:

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More fun to get a pec each loot? Well perhaps not.

I’m trying to explain all this to myself, as much as anyone else, so bear with me. I think what I’m trying to say is that it’s not a case of the previous version being “better”, or “more fun”. It’s more a case of how amazingly not fun it is to loot nothing, followed by nothing, again and again. Now I know people say that this is ok, when you finally get a loot it will be big - I have yet to see this, perhaps I’m bugged (MA say not) but when I get a dozen mobs with no loot, the loot I finally get is invariably close to the lowest loot the mob can drop.

Frankly I dont care if it “balances out at the end of the hunt”. I want to have fun, not do double entry book-keeping.

If I go hunting with 200ped ammo and fully repaired armour and weapons. Hunt for a few hours with the feeling that it’s going bad, feeling pretty fed up about it but determined to continue (because people say you have to, and the big loot may be next). So I finish the hunt and return check decay, lets say 50 ped decay. Then I total up the loot in a TT, 300 ped total loot. Hmm, that means 50 ped profit. cool.

The problem with that scenario is that I just spend a few hours being unhappy, followed by an “oh, well that’s ok then” for like 30 seconds at the end of the hunt.

So to fully answer the question of was it more fun to loot a pec per mob, lets look at the same scenareo: Hunt for a few hours with fully repaired kit and 200ped ammo, hunt goes well, nothing special, no items, no globals, just a steady pec stream with the occasional bit of gold. Return to shop container tired but knowing a good evening of skilling has been accomplished. Check results in terminals and be surprised at the 50ped profit.

That scenareo has the same 30 happyness at the end, but the preceeding few hours are so much LESS annoying and frustrating. Neutral they may be, but I’ll take relaxed contentment over pissed off anxiety any day.

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[QUOTE=Dirk]
More fun to get a pec each loot? Well perhaps not.

I’m trying to explain all this to myself, as much as anyone else, so bear with me. I think what I’m trying to say is that it’s not a case of the previous version being “better”, or “more fun”. It’s more a case of how amazingly not fun it is to loot nothing, followed by nothing, again and again. Now I know people say that this is ok, when you finally get a loot it will be big - I have yet to see this, perhaps I’m bugged (MA say not) but when I get a dozen mobs with no loot, the loot I finally get is invariably close to the lowest loot the mob can drop.

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This is vey similar as mining used to be I think, if you get alot of no loots in a row it’s a very good indication that the area you’re hunting in sucks.
Just like when you got out mining and you drop 10 bombs in a row getting nothing, then get 1 very poor hit and 10 no drops again.
Many people (not specificly talking about you) don’t seem to realise that.

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Frankly I dont care if it “balances out at the end of the hunt”. I want to have fun, not do double entry book-keeping.

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Maybe try hunting with with your loot window and soc chat open, so you wont see the “no loot-messages”.
Perhaps a method like this will let you refind the joy in hunting?
Just try not to focus on the no loots, focus on the positive, focus on the higher loots, the enormous amount of items, etc etc :stuck_out_tongue:
Because personally i think it has to do with focus, i bet if you focussed on all the pecs you got pre vu6.3 it would be frustrating too, just like focussing on the no loots.

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Before 6.3: 20-40 hrs pr week of playing.
After 6.3: 0-½ hrs pr week of playing.

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Hmm- I can’t say I hunt more or less. I have played PE for just about two years now. During that time I have found myself at several “crossroads”. At one point, before vu 6.0, I actually stopped playing for a good 4 months, only to return and play more actively than before.
For me, I see no correlation between the amount of time I play PE and the individual vu’s. It depends on rl and other interests, which have been known to take precedence over PE for me :wink:

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[QUOTE=Dirk]
Nice to know I’m not alone, and also good to hear from the “other side of the fence”. Avery, may I ask for a rough guess of how many hours per week you used to play compared to now?

I know it’s hard to judge but like I say, just guess. I’d say that I play between 1 and 6 hours per week now, and between 5 and 30 hours per week before.
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Good question :wink: I have a really crappy connection between 8am and 8pm, so if I’m logged in during that time I’m just chatting or scanning auction.

At worst I play 2 hours a day, but that can go up to 16 hours a day on weekends if the social cupboard is bare :stuck_out_tongue: I’d guess about 40 hours average a week.

I’ve always played a lot, but around 6.0 I got a bit fed up with the game and just logged in for an hour or 2 a day.

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I’m playing alot less, but I think it’s only cause I can’t get any money into game right now :frowning:

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Made my whole career as hunter.
Not anymore.
I play less than before. Looting sucks. Loot didn’t increase on the good mobs much, and the bad ones now dont even give pecs, just empty.
Some mobs are easier to kill, but it doesnt help.

Another big, very big drawback is running. Running speed was never so slow before, i feel like i am sliding on ice. Mobs always catch up with me.

I used to be able to outrun an atrox guardian, a gokibusagi provider, and a merp mature. Well, now I cannot outrun a damn cornundacauda young.

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Arghhhh!!! Now I’m spending even less time in PE !!! EF has games, challenges and lots of fun value (oh yeah, and less contradictory rules and pointless thread locks than “other” forums :slight_smile: )

Damn you Mindbuster, why’d you have to make something that’s both functional, effective and enjoyable? :laugh:

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[QUOTE=Dirk]
Arghhhh!!! Now I’m spending even less time in PE !!! EF has games, challenges and lots of fun value (oh yeah, and less contradictory rules and pointless thread locks than “other” forums :slight_smile: )

Damn you Mindbuster, why’d you have to make something that’s both functional, effective and enjoyable? :laugh:
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LOL! I second this sentiment

*spending too much time and EFD on Tetris :eek:

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I’m playing less too. This isnt just because I’m not on my own computer, my gf’s runs PE just fine.

I even hof’d not too long ago, 600 more ped on my card than there should be, but im still playing less.

I just have less patience. If i log in, kill 5-10 mobs, and only 2 of them loot, I logout.

Before, I would just move to a different area.

Now, with 7.0 I log in even LESS. =/ Hopefully this will change when Im back on my computer though, and dont have to deal with a 7.0 config on a laptop keyboard. =/

I spend just as much time as usual on #project-entropia on stratics though. :wink:

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For the moment i play WoW EU beta, but when it’s closed i go back to PE and hunt like regular. :slight_smile:

If you loose alot you might have to consider what you are doing wrong.

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I’d love to consider what I’m doing wrong, but the problem is, that my “wrong actions” seem to change from VU to VU.

It makes it difficult to work out what it is that I’m doing wrong when the ruls change around me, but hey- if you know, then I’d sure love for you to tell me.