Calling all vets - how UNLUCKY are you??

Entropia Universe Professions Hunting
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Hello all,

New to this forum but certainly not new to MindArk or Project Entropia. Tonight, after seeing yet another noob that I used to mentor get rewarded with a hunting loot surpassing my best ever, in much less time, I finally have reached a point of frustration that is prompting me to consider finally cashing out. (I have cashed money out before, but never considered cashing out entirely–until now.)

Among all of you veteran players, who among you–with your primary profession being “Professional” or similar, have NEVER HAD A LOOT OVER 1000 PEDS? In my case, I hunt. I hunt and hunt and hunt, and I pretty much ONLY hunt. So over 3 years of hunting, since pre-gold, having amassed laser skills well over 5000, marksmanship close to 6000, BLP close to 4000, I personally find it statistically IMPOSSIBLE that I could never – not ONCE – had an “uber loot”!

I have spoken to many vet players, many who began around the same time as me, and many who started after (some, LONG after). Almost each person I’ve spoken to thinks that something is bugged with my avatar, or it has somehow been flagged for this impossibly bad luck (cursed?). I’m sorry but it just isn’t a fun game to play when practically every night, I shoot hundreds, or thousands of a few kinds of mobs…whether it be during a 2 hour period or a 10-hour marathon hunt session…and almost without fail, every single time, someone ELSE gets the HOF! (Yes, I get a global here and there but I am down about 2500 peds the past 3 months since finally returning to the game after a nearly year-long hiatus, borne of frustration just like I’m experiencing now, but I have all but given up hoping for my first uber because I think my avatar cannot get one.)

I have several times in recent months opened MA support cases about this, and each time I’ve been told “we assure you your avatar is normal” but there is no proof whatsoever to back this claim up. I know other friends who have requested a loot percentage for their avatars and were provided this, but mysteriously, MA has never provided one iota of this requested data to me. I asked them to investigate just how many other avatars with “Professional” standing in their primary skill had NOT achieved an “uber loot”, as I feel I am in a distinct (possibly I am the ONLY?) minority…and also this data would really not reveal anything about their loot system ANYWAY…but I was not afforded any information whatsoever to enlighten me and my impossibly unlucky avatar.

What do the rest of you veterans think of this? Knowing that in 3 years of hunting (and ONLY hunting, it’s practically all I do when I play the game, so spare me the comments about “Maybe you don’t know how/when/where/what to hunt?” because in 3 years, I’m SURE I have tried virtually every strategy I have heard of to improve my luck)…in 3 years and all the aforementioned skills gained (I know skills don’t improve luck, I just mentioned them as a reference to how much I have actually hunted), my best ever loot was a mere pittance, only 787 peds. (To the less experienced players who say “I wish I could get a loot of 787 peds!!”, well, maybe you wouldn’t be so pleased with this result after investing 3 years of your spare time and countless amounts of peds in repairs and ammo expenditure, it’s all relevent…)

I am very interested to see if there is ANYONE ELSE in this game with a skill level higher than mine who has YET to loot an uber?

Thanks for reading.

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luck is a fickle mistress :wink:
what mobs have you been hunting?

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[QUOTE=DarkFire]
luck is a fickle mistress :wink:
what mobs have you been hunting?
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The same mobs that have given uber loots to many other people. Do you want a shortened list, or should I provide the names of 200 different mobs? What mobs I have hunted over the past 3 years should have no bearing on my impossible chance of having an uber loot. It’s not like I’m hunting snablesnots 24/7, I have Cause-amped ML-35, up to A106-amped MK5, V1, and lesser weapons. When I choose an area of mobs to hunt, I slaughter them by the hundreds.

Furthermore, certain “chosen one” avatars can get globals or HOFs from several different kinds of mobs in a period of an hour or two, so this all but completely disproves the theory that HOF’ability is merely mob-based. It’s avatar-based, through-and-through.

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I know how you feel.

Been here since pre gold, never had anything above 850 Peds.

I looted my first GSI just a couple of weeks ago, imagine that :confused:

But I keep oon anyway, getting all worked up by it don´t help anything.
It´s just the good old “Suck it up and like it” situation.

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sad to hear, luck is a shitty thing :kos:

my biggest loot is 1200 peds trox, pure peds or something :wink:

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I’ve never had a loot over 1k.

Ive been playing for over 2 years now.

I deposit, I help noobs in game, Im active on forums and in the community.

I think my avatar is ‘cursed’ =P For what reason, there could be many. =/

But my sig is true.. Ive never had a loot over 1k or an item that could be considered ‘worthy’ of a hof. =/

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[QUOTE=Bread Pusher]
I know how you feel.

Been here since pre gold, never had anything above 850 Peds.
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Let’s try to stick to my original question please…it’s not informative enough to know how long you played; I need to know what your primary skill level is in your chosen hunting weapon to get an accurate idea of how we compare in terms of luck over time. I have met avatars who have been around since pre-gold but have 1/5th of my skills in hunting…now this isn’t comparable, really. Just to give an example.

Who here with a hunting primary standing of “Professional” or similar, has never had an uber 1000+ ped loot?

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I had this exact same discussion with an old soc mate, they had missed uber loots for years and years, someone else always got them. I kinda feel that way too, I hunt bots for 4 days solid - covering costs, pham comes and hunting the same area, instant uber.. I stop hunting an area the mobs uber, done this about 20+ times, its almost a joke when I can say “right armax will uber in the next 30mins, I’m stopping hunting them” they do lol

anyway back on topic, this person was considering selling out, cut back hunting to small runs, gradually built them up again and I think recently they had a nice day with about 5000k profit,

It could be simple as hunting the wrong mobs at the wrong time = I suspect your lucky day will come sooner or later.

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I think the uberloots is just luck, even tho I have had 2 ubers they where both done in the weaker sides of my skills.

I started playing PE 2 januari this year and I hunt very, very much (some may prolly call it insanely much) and I have laser/rifle skills higer than the one you posted.. and mostly done by hunting, sure I chipped some but Im not that rich so I tend to use my money on ammo instead..

Anyhow, my hunting uber was done with a sword and the other was a crafted Mann DLx (wich was my 2nd crafting global/hof ever).. My best rifle Hof is prolly in the 800-900 ped range.. I do however have a fair amount of small globals that keeps me floating..

I have a socmate that doesnt have many small globals but she somehow manages to nail the ubers.. Think she have had 4-5 2000+ hofs to date..

I have no idea why PE behaves as it does, guess thats why it’s so addictive..

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In my three years i’ve hunted all mobs, aliens and falxes less than others. I’ve looted one 3.2K argo scav and once Angel arms (only useful item i’ve looted).
Within last years time my HoF/Global ratio is about 3H to 110 G, which is bad.
I think it should be 1 to 5-10, but that tells how lucky I am :cool:

My skills are about same lvl as yours.

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[QUOTE=Coelacanth]
The same mobs that have given uber loots to many other people. Do you want a shortened list, or should I provide the names of 200 different mobs? What mobs I have hunted over the past 3 years should have no bearing on my impossible chance of having an uber loot. It’s not like I’m hunting snablesnots 24/7, I have Cause-amped ML-35, up to A106-amped MK5, V1, and lesser weapons. When I choose an area of mobs to hunt, I slaughter them by the hundreds.

Furthermore, certain “chosen one” avatars can get globals or HOFs from several different kinds of mobs in a period of an hour or two, so this all but completely disproves the theory that HOF’ability is merely mob-based. It’s avatar-based, through-and-through.
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there are people out there who actually enjoy skilling on low lvl mobs, and you didn’t clarify in your original post if you were one of them or not :wink:
mobs does determine the size of loot/hofs, but hunting big mobs is no garrant of getting a big hof…
i’m Remarkable swordsman and Proficient laser sniper, so i’ve had my share of hunting (never bought skills) and i’ve “only” had 2 1k+ hofs. and i think i’ve been lucky :wink:
my point here is that 0-5 hofs at these skill levels easily could be considered normal. that a few newcommers get lucky early is another matter :slight_smile:

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i may not be as skilled as either of you, but i have been at this game very hardcore the last 6+months and havent seen shit, im happy if i break even, had one solo global and have skilled and skilled and am still skilling, i just really dont want to chip, cause its so easy and boring. i feel like my avatar is flagged too, like i know they hate me or something, and when they see my avatar running around anywhere all i get at most is to break even never anything more. i think ones avatar can be cursed, im active in the pe community as well, and do help noobs out alot when i can afford to. i feel your pain dash :frowning:

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sorry but if u hunt as mcuh as u say then 2500 peds loss in 3 months aint that much in my humble opinion, i am just experienced laser sniper , 3400 in rifle, and in order to keep my hunting up i deposited 2000 ped a month easy ,and losing it, next month had to do the same,
max loot was 480 on berycled when i didnt except it, did get loads of globals and gsi, never ever a good item.
Last night a soc mate who never playes and who had no skill came on, bought minign gear , and within 10 minutes 2700 ped iron hof. yes that hurts, but gratz to him, and proof to me that its random and can happen to vets, noobs, high and low skileld players.

i hope yours is stil out there waiting for u

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Well. I’m NOT professional in standing. However, I have three different (mostly) unrelated skills that together would easily get me there. (Adept swordsman, Adept laser sniper, Competent whipper).

I started out at the same as a few others in my soc, who have since all had ubers (the nun had one in a team, but still). I grab my globies every now and then, but have only had two HOFs. 1 for 50 ped and 1 for 440 or so in a team.

I do believe though that there might not so much be a luck factor, but more of a destiny factor. In other words, maybe you were not BORN to be a hunter. Wren has more crafting skills than me, and yet I scored a few minis while crafting filters where he usually mostly takes a loss. So perhaps my destiny is in crafting, and would that explain why I have yet to grab an uber in hunting or anything in mining.

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[QUOTE=Ulv]
sure I chipped some but Im not that rich so I tend to use my money on ammo instead..
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All of my hunting skills were achieved through actual hunting. In fact, I sold a chip full of my Aim skill, so my aim would normally be a bit higher. (I don’t think Aim makes a damn hoot of difference in this game, every single night I hunt, I routinely miss 3 or 4 times in a row many times on mobs due to lag, or mysterious point-blank misses that are inconceivable and unexplainable…resulting in wasted ammo and peds that ultimately benefits MA.)

I have no idea why PE behaves as it does, guess thats why it’s so addictive..

Hmm, it kinda loses its lustre when you feel like you’re playing the slot machines in a crooked casino…

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Well, I haven’t been here for 3 years, but I’ve heard that the uber-loot (1k+) was extremely rare until a year ago or so… And there have never been as many as in the last 3 months or so.

Does this matter? Yes, cause it means that you have ‘only been unlucky’ for 3-12 months and not 3 years.
And yes, I believe it’s just that: Luck.

GL.. I hope you’ll get a big one soon. (After I’ve got mine, ofc)
:smiley:

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I know exactly how you feel Coelacanth. I was also amazed how i could not get a loot over 1k ped after so long time in PE (2.5 years). (Pro standing expert laser sniper when i finally got it). Seemed impossible after closing in on, if not over, 300 globals/hofs by now. Was positive i was cursed too. But suddenly last week it came! 1444 ped umbra.

So with that said, hang in there buddy! Your time WILL come :wink:

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[QUOTE=ViagraFalls]
maybe you were not BORN to be a hunter. Wren has more crafting skills than me, and yet I scored a few minis while crafting filters where he usually mostly takes a loss. So perhaps my destiny is in crafting, and would that explain why I have yet to grab an uber in hunting or anything in mining.
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Haha, if only this were true! Then I guess I’m not born to do anything but hunt, because I do FAR WORSE in mining, tailoring, and crafting!

Regarding the comment that losing 2500 peds in a few months isn’t much, well, I can only afford to hunt 2 to 4 hours every other night or so, and maybe the odd weekend I can hunt for more extended periods…I’m not a person with no job and lots of money who can play the game their entire waking life. Regardless, if I amassed “Pro” standing in 3 years, and someone else amassed it in 1 year, in terms of peds spent, it’s the same number of slot machine pulls, and thus we ought to have the same chance for a “jackpot”, statistically. That’s where this game is so frustrating, because some people have impossible luck–regardless of where they hunt, what they hunt, or when they hunt. They just have an impossibly good chance to trigger globals & HOFs (I have a few friends who are good examples of this “Chosen One” factor).

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[QUOTE=Viking]
I know exactly how you feel Coelacanth. I was also amazed how i could not get a loot over 1k ped after so long time in PE (2.5 years). (Pro standing expert laser sniper when i finally got it). Seemed impossible after closing in on, if not over, 300 globals/hofs by now. Was positive i was cursed too. But suddenly last week it came! 1444 ped umbra.

So with that said, hang in there buddy! Your time WILL come :wink:
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Geesh, 300 globals/HOFs!!! I just checked my screenshots of my globals (34), and I might have double this many including ones I didn’t bother to take screenies of…would you think 50 to 60-ish globals/HOFs is ridiculously low for someone with similar skills as yourself?! OMFG this game pisses me off…300!!! I WISH!!!

Something is DEFINITELY stinky with my avatar…gee, I wonder why (I have a few juicy theories, maybe Marco could take a moment to comment?)…

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We should do a teamhunt some evening..