Its not about been satisfied with the amount of net positive resault. This set up runs at no risk of losing money. And this is RCE. You should, always, be in danger of it regardless of if you done everything right or not. (And you giving me examples of TT shrap to buy ammo…).
Mining can fail by farming good areas with high MU resources that are capped at this current time.
Crafting can fail when there is a sudden drop in mats/BPs cost or item demand.
(Hunting without 2.0 runs the same risks due to higher MU requirements.)
Both of them regardless of the skill/tools used.
Thats the same failproof hot garbage Loot 1.0 with TT+ was. But back then it was contained to only few weapons and rest of set ups did require skill. Now its everywhere.
Account values are built over time, over many years of playing, or large sums invested depositing or farmed. And usually pleople with account values have been good cutomers to the game, they being destroyed, game dies too. Why is this strange or event an argument? Isn’t it obvious that when you earn something you want to keep it because it’s yours and you want it to preserve its value?
These suggestions nowadays come from people with very little to no skin in the game, just for the sake of destroying it all not with a plan of starting the game at that point if the items become cheaper enough…
No sane person or with good intentions towards the game would ask of the game to introduce L items widely available that could shortcut many years of game, tens of thousand of dollars, or to make it rain more items hoping the “whales” would let go of their, just so they can jump in and have a go at the game.
It sounds like people are getting mad at the sales and renting threads, not at their results in the game… if renting would not have been an option I would’t have progressed in the game at all and I probably would have quit many years ago. Same goes for many people around here. If people have many items for sale it’s because good items are not moving that fast and it’s the owner’s right to do whatever they want with the item, including asking 4.5 gazillion dollars for it and no amount of identical items in the game could move the price a pec lower. Stop it with the salt and looking in other ppls wallets and improve your game if yu want better experience don’t just ask for ubers to be destroyed It’s in human nature to whale if you can, it’s just constant improvement and evolution of an avatar… That’s the whole point of a game, to improve not just grab quick L and pull out every penny you profit. Isn’t what Mindark always said? Invest in yur avatar?
[HEADING=1]Invest in Your Profession[/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]Are You Ready For a Real Challenge?[/HEADING]
It is perhaps not an investment in the traditional sense, as it will take a lot of hard work and dedication on your part. It is however possible to make money by engaging in a traditional MMO profession on Calypso, such as hunting, mining, trading or crafting. To succeed, you must not only be skilled at your profession – you must also be a shrewd business person.
[HEADING=2]Invest in Equipment and Skills[/HEADING]
Imagine you are a hunter. You know that a certain creature drops loot that is in high demand by other participants. Currently, you are not able to kill that creature. You may then choose to invest in the equipment and skills you need to bring that creature down and acquire its valuable loot.
Similarly, imagine you are a miner. You have discovered a rich field of valuable mineral resources, are producing decent finds, covering your expenses and even retaining a small profit. You suspect that you can increase your profit if you could only produce larger finds. You may then decide to invest in amplifiers for your mining tool.
An investment in your avatar can come in many shapes and sizes. What an investment entails is entirely up to you – only you know what your plans and goals for your avatar.
If those intentions arent in favor of your pocket doesnt mean they are bad towards the game. Net sum will be at least the same. Most certainly better.
And buying those weapons always were at risk of been devalued during any patch. “Risk” means more than just a cute word in peoples memoirs.
Don’t imagine I am against any decision game devs take. I like the game a lot and I will try to adapt. If amazing L’s are in game, I will farm them and try to sell it at markup; if amazing items will rain, I will be farming and I will have a bunch for sale, at markup, so on and so forth. I’m planning to play this game under any META is out there. I started from the ground and I will not stay mad at any change. I was mad when loot 2.0 came out. I lost a lot in item value right away, but I didn’t sell right away so item value went back up a little, but I made enough to cover losses even items value. I used a ton of L rifles with bad eff when I owned LP70 FEN, just because I could profit way more that way. That’s the thing, I’m accepting any challenging META and the game recognises the value of keeping the players interested in progressing and for the players to constant play and be satisfied and profit the game has to profit as well so the game will always try to survive and profit.
I’m trying to point out that this suggestion might not favour the OP but the whales OP wants to destroy tho, because the whales do what Mindarks says to do - invest in their profession while the OP and several other professional complainers don’t, they want it for free and fast.
Lets have it clear. Im not against whales/ubers/anyone really. Nor im wishing people lose their investments.
If there wont be whales nor investment certainty, whats the point of RCE then?
But there has to be a change to this system.
Your ability to “profit” vs 2.0 pixel holder, regardless of the skill gap, is abysmal. That difference must be narrowed.
People must be able to outperform others (at least in relative numbers) with more knowledge and dedication. Gear has to be an asset. Not the complete substitute for the above.
The risk i took payed out within one year of owning it…
And thats the point adapt
1.0 i did well
2.0 i did Bad
I had to adapt, what means i have to invest, what i did
2.0 i do well since investment
3.0 i wont do well
I will have to adapt in order to do well again.
Gear never was a substitute for knowledge and dedication. Some gear performs better than other gear and that performance amplifies immensely when knowledge and dedication are abundant.
MA did add a ton of gear in the recent few years, see all the restocks, all the loots and TWEN vendor plus new RDI stuff that is waiting to be discovered, but the small stuff, entry level stuff, is in such high demand it’s crazy. When the guy that discovered adj hero twen asked me what I thought it was worth, I said 5 to 8 k but it sold for 24k or something crazy. It’s the actual demand that drives the prices where they are.. The first SB10 puled from vendor was at a cost of 45k (token price at that moment). And tokens could be looted, items could be looted, no reason to feel left out if you were around… or no reason to feel left out with so many weapons in the Mayhem vendor, players actually decide how many items get spawned. Get a high dps weapon and destroy that Mayhem Vendor and Ma will strock it every minute if your token stash is that powerful…
We literally have to compare people who grind, without 2.0, with all the available knowledge, and people who sell shrap for ammo, with 2.0, in this very post for what is needed for a break even in each case.
We can agree to disagree then. I call this “straight up a lie”. You have people doing exactly what you describe with mod nanos with bad results.
I dreamed of grinding for break even and I was happy to do it for long time, skills piled up, helped me a ton with looters and such. This is a game not a job after all
Afaik, if those are the same i think, they are not net negative. They are “not what they want them to be”. Thats different. And you been ignoring this criteria for few posts now.
I call the above also a lie, someone without 2.0 WITH ALL THE AVAILABLE KNOWLEDGE would upgrade immediately and go grinding with 2.0, but hey, I don’t want to go into more details or we’re going what you need to grind and that’s for you to discover
Ye, thats my point. Because knowing everything you realize how far behind you are with and without that pixel. Way more than you should.
You are not the measure for this case. Only numbers. And, afaik, they are not net negative. And since those weapons are net gain 0 (they are sold for what they bought), argument of investment wouldnt be valied either.
It’s in human nature to whale if you can, it’s just constant improvement and evolution of an avatar… That’s the whole point of a game, to improve not just grab quick L and pull out every penny you profit. Isn’t what Mindark always said? Invest in yur avatar? 